Return-path: Envelope-to: admin@4xpips.net Delivery-date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 08:45:22 -0500 Received: from csmtp15.one.com ([195.47.247.115]:54799) by host.silverbacklabs.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WJ1H3-0006LT-Pc for admin@4xpips.net; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 08:45:18 -0500 Received: from webmail9 (webmail9.local.one.com [10.246.6.9]) by csmtp15.one.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 29B4CC0028964 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:45:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail9 (webmail9.local.one.com [10.246.6.9]) by 0.0.0.0:2552 (trex/4.8.87); Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:45:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: 188.29.80.100 User-Agent: One.com webmail 2.11.8 In-Reply-To: References: <1385558264069.13726.134@webmail6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1393508705077.1143.3106@webmail9> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:45:05 GMT To: "4x Pips" From: "Richard Hartley" Reply-To: Subject: Thursday afternoon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------3104-1393508705077-1" This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------------3104-1393508705077-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Good Afternoon Following our previous email correspondence........... I'm= just wondering how your automatic Trade Copier has been doing. Have you i= nstalled it? Is it producing satisfactory results? Are your subscribers g= etting the same results as you? Do you have your results listed and visibl= e somewhere? Many thanks. Richard Hartley +++++ On 27 November 20= 13, 4x Pips wrote: > Hi >=20 > Yes I always talk abou= t the results from the signal service. By the > time you sign up the autot= rade copier will be the same as the results > we get anyway so as I said i= n the previous email all 3 shoudl match > exactly as they will be run and = managed by 1 person only >=20 > Look forward to having you onboard in a few= weeks >=20 > Thanks >=20 > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Richard Hartle= y > <> wrote: >=20 > > Hi > > Thankyou for = your rapid reply! > > Presumably, when you talk of "results" in the first = line of your latest > > email, you mean the results shown on your website = and not the results shown > > on the Trade Copier page? > >=20 > > So on t= hat basis, if I am running your Trade Copier, with no interference > > fro= m me at all, I should get the same results as those shown on your > > webs= ite? Because those are based on signals and updates sent by you. > >=20 > >= It may be a couple of weeks before I can get round to it but I'll sign up = > > for your service shortly. > >=20 > > I appreciate the time you have tak= en to advise me. > >=20 > > Regards > > Richard Hartley > >=20 > > +++++ = > >=20 > >=20 > > On 27 November 2013, 4x Pips <> wrote: >= >=20 > > Hi > >=20 > > Sorry for not replying earlier, the results are base= d on what the > > signal service makes in pips and % gain/loss per month b= ased on signal > > sent and updates sent > >=20 > > The myfxbook and colle= ctive2 are run by 2 traders and are based on our > > sigals but can differ= from our signals. > >=20 > > From Jan 2014 what we will do is close both t= he coll2 and demo > > myfxbook and run a live account which will fully 100= % automate our > > signals so will match our signals and will be run direc= tly by the > > person sending the signals and updates so there won't be 3 = differing > > sets of results which there is now. Currently this could not= be done > > but things will be in place in jan to make sure this will be = p ossible > >=20 > > Thanks > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at = 8:03 PM, Richard Hartley > > <> wrote: > > = > > Hi > > May I please have a reply to my email of Sunday afternoon, a = copy of which > > is attached below. > > Thankyou. > > Richard Hartley = > >=20 > > +++++ > >=20 > >=20 > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >= > From: Richard Hartley <> > > Date: Sun No= v 24 2013 13:45:30 GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time) > > Subject: Sunday aftern= oon > > To: 4x Pips <> > >=20 > > Hi > > Thanks for you= r below email. > > I have just a couple of questions: > >=20 > > On the re= sults page of your website [ > > ] your results look very > > impressive and it is these results t= hat have attracted me to your service. > >=20 > > On the page giving detail= s of your various services [ > > ] with regard to your > > Trade Copier facility you say: > >= "Signals are copied from our PLATINUM service direct to your MT4 > > acco= unt........." > > so I would expect the results of the Trade Copier to be = roughly what you > > show on your "Results" page. > >=20 > > However, foll= owing the link to the details about your Trade Copier [ > > ] I see that the results > > obtai= ned are not anything like as good (indeed, 3 out of the last 5 months > > = would appear to show a negative result). How can this be? > >=20 > > Additi= onally, I note the various disclaimers about Hypothetical Results. > > Why= is this page displaying Hypothetical Results when I would have thought > = > you had some very good results that you can be proud of and which you cou= ld > > display? > >=20 > > I certainly do not want to use a service based = on good Hypothetical Results > > but I am inclined to use your service bas= ed on the results on your "Results" > > page. > >=20 > > I would welcome y= our advice. > >=20 > > Many thanks. > > Richard Hartley > >=20 > > +++++ = > >=20 > > On Thu Nov 21 2013 18:49:07 GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time), 4x Pips= > > <> wrote: > >=20 > > Hi Richard, > >=20 > > Thanks = for the mail, seem to have missed the previous one as can't see > > it so = sorry about that > >=20 > > We are unable to break down our results unfortu= nately. As the GOLD > > service is 1 email a day with no updates the resul= ts between traders > > can vary slightly as we do suggest move sl to entry= about 30-40pips > > into trade for them signals. > >=20 > > We tend to ju= st report the platinum on the website as the high > > majortiy of clients = sue this service and if we place too many results > > on the site people g= et confused > >=20 > > Thanks > >=20 > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:11 PM, = Richard Hartley > > > wrote: > >=20 > > Hi= > > Thanks for your email. > > I wouldn't have been interested in an ipa= d - but I would be interested in an > > answer to the question I sent you = (via your website) a few days ago: > >=20 > > are you able to break your re= sults for this year down in to Platinum and > > Gold? > >=20 > > Regards = > > Richard Hartley > >=20 > > +++++ > >=20 > > On Thu Nov 21 2013 09:45:38= GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time), 4x Pips > > <> wrote: > = >=20 > > HI all > >=20 > > SunbirdFX have approached us as an affiliate and = have made this offer to any > > new clients > >=20 > > Unfortunately the o= ffer ends today but I will provide the details anyway > >=20 > > Here is th= e link > > And please = use referral code 1069 > >=20 > > The offer they have is: Ipad promo: > > = new account only > > deposit 1000$ > > until the 21st of November > > by= the 31/12/2013 if your account is over 2014$ in closed balance, you win >= > the ipad > >=20 > > So deposit $1000 today and if its above $2014 you ge= t a free ipad > >=20 > > Thanks all > >=20 > >=20 > > To unsubscribe from ou= r periodic e-mail messages, please click the following > > link > > ------------3104-1393508705077-1 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----------3104-1393508705077-2" ------------3104-1393508705077-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Good Afternoon
Following our previous email correspondence...........
I'm just wondering how your automatic Trade Copier has been doing.
Have you installed it?
Is it producing satisfactory results?
Are your subscribers getting the same results as you?
Do you have your results listed and visible somewhere?
Many thanks.
Richard Hartley

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On 27 November 2013, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wrote:

Hi

Yes I always talk about the results from the signal service. By the
time you sign up the autotrade copier will be the same as the results
we get anyway so as I said in the previous email all 3 shoudl match
exactly as they will be run and managed by 1 person only

Look forward to havin g you onboard in a few weeks

Thanks

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Richard Hartley
<rjhartley@mailxchange.org.uk> wrote:
Hi
Thankyou for your rapid reply!
Presumably, when you talk of "results" in the first line of your latest
email, you mean the results shown on your website and not the results shown=
on the Trade Copier page?

So on that basis, if I am running your Trade Copier, with no interference
from me at all, I should get the same results as those shown on your
website? Because those are based on signals and updates sent by you.

It may be a couple of weeks before I can get round to it but I'll sign up
for your service shortly.

I appreciate the time you have taken to advise me.

Regards
Richard Hartley

+++++


On 27 November 2013, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wrote:

Hi

Sorry for not replying earlier, the results are based on what the
signal service makes in pips and % gain/loss per month based on signal
sent and updates sent

The myfxbook and collective2 are run by 2 traders and are based on our
sigals but can differ from our signals.

From Jan 2014 what we will do is close both the coll2 and demo
myfxbook and run a live account which will fully 100% automate our
signals so will match our signals and will be run directly by the
person sending the signals and updates so there won't be 3 differing
sets of results which there is now. Currently this could not be done
but things will be in place in jan to make sure this will be p ossible

Thanks



On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Richard Hartley
<rjhartley@mailxchange.org.uk> wrote:

Hi
May I please have a reply to my email of Sunday afternoon, a copy of which
is attached below.
Thankyou.
Richard Hartley

+++++


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Richard Hartley <rjhartley@mailxchange.org.uk>
Date : Sun Nov 24 2013 13:45:30 GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time)
Subject: Sunday afternoon
To: 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net>

Hi
Thanks for your below email.
I have just a couple of questions:

On the results page of your website [
http://www.profitfromtrading.co.uk/RESULTS.html ] your results look very
impressive and it is these results that have attracted me to your service.

On the page giving details of your various services [
http://www.profitfromtrading.co.uk/OUR-SERVICE.html ] with regard to your
Trade Copier facility you say:
"Signals are copied from our PLATINUM service direct to your MT4
account........."
so I would expect the results of the Trade Copier to be roughly what you
show on your "Results" page.

However, following the link to the details about your Trade Copier [
http://www.collective2.com/cgi-perl/system81799642# ] I see that the results
obtained are not anything like as good (indeed, 3 out of the last 5 months
would appear to show a negative result). How can this be?

Additionally, I note the various disclaimers about Hypothetical Results.
Why is this page displaying Hypothetical Results when I would have thought
you had some very good results that you can be proud of and which you could=
display?

I certainly do not want to use a service based on good Hypothetical Results=
but I am inclined to use your service based on the results on your "Results= "
page.

I would welcome your advice.

Many thanks.
Richard Hartley

+++++

On Thu Nov 21 2013 18:49:07 GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time), 4x Pips
<admin@4xpips.net> wrote:

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the mail, seem to have missed the previous one as can't see
it so sorry about that

We are unable to break down our results unfortunately. As the GOLD
service is 1 email a day with no updates the results between traders
can vary slightly as we do suggest move sl to entry about 30-40pips
into trade for them signals.

We tend to just report the platinum on the website as the high
majortiy of clients sue this service and if we place too many results
on the site people get confused

Thanks

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Richard Hartley
<rjhartl ey@mailxchange.org.uk> wrote:

Hi
Thanks for your email.
I wouldn't have been interested in an ipad - but I would be interested in an
answer to the question I sent you (via your website) a few days ago:

are you able to break your results for this year down in to Platinum and
Gold?

Regards
Richard Hartley

+++++

On Thu Nov 21 2013 09:45:38 GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time), 4x Pips
<admin@4xpips.net> wrote:

HI all

SunbirdFX have approached us as an affiliate and have made this offer to an= y
new clients

Unfortunately the offer ends today but I will provide the details anyway

Here is the link http://www.sunbirdfx.com/?AffId=3D41631&affSer=3D
And please use referral code 1069

The offer they have is: Ipad promo:
new account only
deposit 1000$
until the 21st of November
by the 31/12/2013 if your account is over 2014$ in closed balance, you win
the ipad

So deposit $1000 today and if its above $2014 you get a free ipad

Thanks all


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