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Subject: Re: Quality of Service / Refund request
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 07:36:26 +0100
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Great.  And when pp decide in 30 days or 60 or 90 that they can  
release funds then they will , but there is nothing I can do .  My  
account us closed.  Which means while I gave access to view it, I can  
do no transactions, in or out.  This is to continue while I over and  
back to pp to appeal the closure.

So please stop telling peole it will be 48 hours etc... It could take  
months.

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Oct 2012, at 03:12, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wrote:

> another one we need to process
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Wayne Sweet <wayne.sweet@live.com>
> Date: Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:39 AM
> Subject: RE: Quality of Service / Refund request
> To: 4x pips admin <admin@4xpips.net>
>
>
>
> Hi Martin
>
> is PP fixed now?  let me know when $$ xferred so i can confirm from  
> my side
>
> much appreciated
>
> Wayne
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 03:06:11 +0100
>
> Subject: Re: Quality of Service / Refund request
> From: admin@4xpips.net
> To: wayne.sweet@live.com
>
> Hi Wayne
>
> Sorry but it wont happen today, PP has blocked our acc again. We  
> cant even accept payments now so will probably take 48hrs to fix. If  
> you are familiar with them you will know how slow they work.
>
> So please follow me up on Wed again
>
> Sorry about this but nothing I can do until PP get themselves sorted  
> and stop messing us about
>
> Thanks
> Martin
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Wayne Sweet <wayne.sweet@live.com>  
> wrote:
>
> Hi Martin
>
> just a reminder to submit refund into my paypal account today.
>
> much appreciated
> Wayne
> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:11:46 +0100
>
> Subject: Re: Quality of Service / Refund request
> From: admin@4xpips.net
> To: wayne.sweet@live.com
>
> Hi Wayne
>
> Sorry to hear that. The results we post are genuine and we do send  
> an average of 2 signals a day but we will process your rfund
>
> If you dont get it by Monday then please get in touch with me again
>
> Thanks
> Martin
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Wayne Sweet <wayne.sweet@live.com>  
> wrote:
> Hi Martin
>
> Thanks for the response below and sorry to hear you have been unwell.
>
> I wish to still proceed with the refund as I am not comfortable with  
> points 1-3 listed below versus whats been advertised.
>
> Let me know what details you require in order to process the refund.
>
> Kind regards
> Wayne
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:03:58 +0100
> Subject: Re: Quality of Service / Refund request
> From: admin@4xpips.net
> To: wayne.sweet@live.com
>
>
> Hi Wayne
>
> APologies but the past 3 days I was ill and we are extending peoples  
> subscription to cover this. If you still require a refund then  
> please let me know but I can assure you this is a one off
>
> Thanks
> Martin
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:49 AM, Wayne Sweet <wayne.sweet@live.com>  
> wrote:
>
> Hi there
>
> i signed up to your service as part of the FPA offer based on the  
> following:
> 1 - Good testimonials
> 2 - Published results showing week on week positive for 2012 wth the  
> exception of 3 weeks with negative pips
> 3 - Receiving 1-3 daily signals
>
>
> to date (day 8 of your service) signals have been sent on only 4  
> days - a total of 8 signals.  ref attached.  if i took all signals  
> results wouldve been 143 pips (estimated).
> in discussions with other (not as new a memberas me ) of 4x pips i  
> understand the last 3 weeks have been negative - statistically this  
> is unlikely based on published results so i question the validity of  
> your website results  .
>
> i am not happy with the service, do not believe you are providing  
> what has been signed up for and therefore request a refund.  I  
> understand your website says you have a no refund policy but in  
> light of your inability to deliver as advertised I would request you  
> make an exception.
>
> I await your confirmation of refund.
>
> Kind regards
> Wayne
>
>
>
>

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<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Great. &nbsp;And when pp decide in 30 days or 60 or 90 that they can release funds then they will , but there is nothing I can do . &nbsp;My account us closed. &nbsp;Which means while I gave access to view it, I can do no transactions, in or out. &nbsp;This is to continue while I over and back to pp to appeal the closure. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>So please stop telling peole it will be 48 hours etc... It could take months.</div><div><br></div><div>Mm<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 17 Oct 2012, at 03:12, 4x Pips &lt;<a href="mailto:admin@4xpips.net">admin@4xpips.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>another one we need to process<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Wayne Sweet</b> <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:wayne.sweet@live.com"><a href="mailto:wayne.sweet@live.com">wayne.sweet@live.com</a></a>&gt;</span><br>
Date: Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:39 AM<br>Subject: RE: Quality of Service / Refund request<br>To: 4x pips admin &lt;<a href="mailto:admin@4xpips.net"><a href="mailto:admin@4xpips.net">admin@4xpips.net</a></a>&gt;<br><br><br>

<div><div dir="ltr">
<br>Hi Martin<br><br>is PP fixed now?&nbsp; let me know when $$ xferred so i can confirm from my side<br><br>much appreciated<br><br>Wayne<br><div><div></div><hr>Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 03:06:11 +0100<div><div class="h5"><br>Subject: Re: Quality of Service / Refund request<br>
From: <a href="mailto:admin@4xpips.net" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:admin@4xpips.net">admin@4xpips.net</a></a><br>To: <a href="mailto:wayne.sweet@live.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:wayne.sweet@live.com">wayne.sweet@live.com</a></a><br><br>Hi Wayne<br><br>Sorry but it wont happen today, PP has blocked our acc again. We cant even accept payments now so will probably take 48hrs to fix. If you are familiar with them you will know how slow they work.<br>
<br>So please follow me up on Wed again<br>
<br>Sorry about this but nothing I can do until PP get themselves sorted and stop messing us about<br><br>Thanks<br>Martin<br><br><div>On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Wayne Sweet <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:wayne.sweet@live.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:wayne.sweet@live.com">wayne.sweet@live.com</a></a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

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<br>Hi Martin<br><br>just a reminder to submit refund into my paypal account today.<br><br>much appreciated<br>Wayne<br><div><div></div><hr>Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:11:46 +0100<div><div><br>Subject: Re: Quality of Service / Refund request<br>

From: <a href="mailto:admin@4xpips.net" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:admin@4xpips.net">admin@4xpips.net</a></a><br>To: <a href="mailto:wayne.sweet@live.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:wayne.sweet@live.com">wayne.sweet@live.com</a></a><br><br>Hi Wayne<br><br>Sorry to hear that. The results we post are genuine and we do send an average of 2 signals a day but we will process your rfund<br>

<br>If you dont get it by Monday then please get in touch with me again<br>
<br>Thanks<br>Martin<br><br><div>On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Wayne Sweet <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:wayne.sweet@live.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:wayne.sweet@live.com">wayne.sweet@live.com</a></a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div><div dir="ltr">
Hi Martin<br><br>Thanks for the response below and sorry to hear you have been unwell.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><br>I wish to still proceed with the refund as I am not comfortable with points 1-3 listed below versus whats been advertised.<br>

<br>Let me know what details you require in order to process the refund.<br><br>Kind regards<br>Wayne<br><br><div><div></div><hr>Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:03:58 +0100<br>Subject: Re: Quality of Service / Refund request<br>

From: <a href="mailto:admin@4xpips.net" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:admin@4xpips.net">admin@4xpips.net</a></a><br>To: <a href="mailto:wayne.sweet@live.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:wayne.sweet@live.com">wayne.sweet@live.com</a></a><div><div><br><br>Hi Wayne<br><br>APologies but the past 3 days I was ill and we are extending peoples subscription to cover this. If you still require a refund then please let me know but I can assure you this is a one off<br>

<br>Thanks<br>
Martin<br><br><div>On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:49 AM, Wayne Sweet <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:wayne.sweet@live.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:wayne.sweet@live.com">wayne.sweet@live.com</a></a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div><div dir="ltr">
<br>Hi there<br><br>i signed up to your service as part of the FPA offer based on the following:<br>1 - Good testimonials<br>2 - Published results showing week on week positive for 2012 wth the exception of 3 weeks with negative pips<br>

3 - Receiving 1-3 daily signals<br><br><br>to date (day 8 of your service) signals have been sent on only 4 days - a total of 8 signals.&nbsp; ref attached.&nbsp; if i took all signals results wouldve been 143 pips (estimated).&nbsp; <br>

in discussions with other (not as new a memberas me ) of 4x pips i understand the last 3 weeks have been negative - statistically this is unlikely based on published results so i question the validity of your website results&nbsp; .&nbsp; <br>

<br>i am not happy with the service, do not believe you are providing what has been signed up for and therefore request a refund.&nbsp; I understand your website says you have a no refund policy but in light of your inability to deliver as advertised I would request you make an exception.<br>

<br>I await your confirmation of refund.<br><br>Kind regards<span><font color="#888888"><br>Wayne<br> 		 	   		  </font></span></div></div>
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