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From: Alex Milovic <amilovic@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:56:16 +0200
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Subject: Re: CHANGE TO SERVICE
To: 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net>
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Hi Martin,

Since it has been less than 30 days since I paid for your signals, and as
you agreed, the results have been not so outstanding. I would like to
receive a chargeback on my payment.

Thanks,

Alex

On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:13 PM, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wrote:

> Hi all
>
>  It is with great regret that I have decided to step aside at 4X Pips
> after 4 fantastic years. Unfortunately the past 1-2 months the signals have
> not been the best, even though the last week we are back to some profit,
>  and people who have recently joined have decided to target a lot of anger
> and abuse directly at me. Recently I have had personal threats, had blatant
> lies told about me, people posting untrue facts about me and my private
> live and had people creating fake Facebook profiles to try and befriend me
> on FB and check into my private and personal life. For everyone who knows
> me through the group or knows me personally and knows the service for more
> than 3 months they will know that I have always worked hard (16 hour days
> sometimes) to give people a reliable, honest and fair signal service. Its
> just unfortunate that we have had a losing few weeks after the FPA offer
> and new website.
>
>  Its also unfortunate that from the 100's of clients (and 1000's over the
> past few years) that its only 4-5 people who made it personal against me
> and decided to target me direct. So for that reason I am stepping aside as
> it means someone else can step in and run the service better without this
> level of abuse and personal attacks.
>
>  So on that note, I have asked TCi who has been giving excellent pips over
> the past 2 months in the skype group to take over. He will have access to
> our other traders and it will be his decision whether to send the other
> traders signals out or hold them or adjust them. He will be available in
> the skype groups and you can ask for his help and support there. His
> signals and updates will be sent out as usual by email, twitter, twitter
> sms and facebook. In my opinion this will improve the signals and service
> and lead to good pips and profits. I can honestly say if TCi was not
> available then I would continue but I have known him for a long time now
> and am so impressed with his signals and work that I am happy for him to
> provide the signals for 4X Pips signals. All signals will still have entry,
> stop loss and TP and will be similar to the signals we had this week with
> smaller SL's which will be better. There will also be more major pairs such
> as EU, GU, AU & UC. People will see no change to the service, you will
> still get approx the same number of signals, sent the same way, TCi will be
> admin of the skype group and email support will still be available from
> other admins. I may join the skype group as a client in the coming weeks
> and will be happy to chat to fellow clients when I do
>
>  The admin side of things (such as questions about the service, any
> problems you are having or  subscriptions) will be dealt with by the other
> admins in the company. Also 1 person will now deal with all emails as we
> had some occurances where there was a number of us answering emails and
> missing emails so now 1 person deals with them and they aim to answer all
> emails within 24hrs but they will aim for much faster during the London
> trading hours
>
>  Let me say that this is not a negative for 4X Pips and I honestly believe
> it will help improve the pips and service and there is still plans for the
> 3rd party verification, autotrade and ipad/android apps and they will be
> worked on by the other admins shortly. Please keep an eye on the website
> for updates on the autotrade system especially. Of course some people will
> view this negatively (the 4-5 people above) and probably make some weird
> claims but when the service is being negatively affected by certain people
> and I am finding my time taken up by these people and not with signals and
> clients then its best I step aside.
>
>  Of course I still have some good friends and good people I met through
> this service and will keep some of you as my personal FB friends. Some of
> you do email me asking for advice on other issues and opinion on long term
> trades so if you wish to still keep in touch then please email 4x pips here
> and they will give you my private email address and you can still email me
> when you need free advice
>
>  So once again thanks everybody and I will still be available into start
> next week. So if you have any questions then please let me know before then.
>
>  Thanks again and happy trading
>  Martin
>
> --
> 4X PIPS TEAM
> www.profitfromtrading.co.uk
>
>
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Hi Martin,<div><br></div><div>Since it has been less than 30 days since I p=
aid for your signals, and as you agreed, the results have been not so outst=
anding. I would like to receive a chargeback on my payment.=A0</div><div><b=
r>

</div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Alex<br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:13 PM, 4x Pips <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:admin@4xpips.net" target=3D"_blank">admin@4xpips.net</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>
	<span style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">Hi all</span></p>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	It is with great regret that I have decided to step aside at 4X Pips after=
 4 fantastic years. Unfortunately the past 1-2 months the signals have not =
been the best, even though the last week we are back to some profit, =A0and=
 people who have recently joined have decided to target a lot of anger and =
abuse directly at me. Recently I have had personal threats, had blatant lie=
s told about me, people posting untrue facts about me and my private live a=
nd had people creating fake Facebook profiles to try and befriend me on FB =
and check into my private and personal life. For everyone who knows me thro=
ugh the group or knows me personally and knows the service for more than 3 =
months they will know that I have always worked hard (16 hour days sometime=
s) to give people a reliable, honest and fair signal service. Its just unfo=
rtunate that we have had a losing few weeks after the FPA offer and new web=
site.</div>


<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	Its also unfortunate that from the 100&#39;s of clients (and 1000&#39;s ov=
er the past few years) that its only 4-5 people who made it personal agains=
t me and decided to target me direct. So for that reason I am stepping asid=
e as it means someone else can step in and run the service better without t=
his level of abuse and personal attacks.=A0</div>


<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	So on that note, I have asked TCi who has been giving excellent pips over =
the past 2 months in the skype group to take over. He will have access to o=
ur other traders and it will be his decision whether to send the other trad=
ers signals out or hold them or adjust them. He will be available in the sk=
ype groups and you can ask for his help and support there. His signals and =
updates will be sent out as usual by email, twitter, twitter sms and facebo=
ok. In my opinion this will improve the signals and service and lead to goo=
d pips and profits. I can honestly say if TCi was not available then I woul=
d continue but I have known him for a long time now and am so impressed wit=
h his signals and work that I am happy for him to provide the signals for 4=
X Pips signals. All signals will still have entry, stop loss and TP and wil=
l be similar to the signals we had this week with smaller SL&#39;s which wi=
ll be better. There will also be more major pairs such as EU, GU, AU &amp; =
UC. People will see no change to the service, you will still get approx the=
 same number of signals, sent the same way, TCi will be admin of the skype =
group and email support will still be available from other admins. I may jo=
in the skype group as a client in the coming weeks and will be happy to cha=
t to fellow clients when I do</div>


<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	The admin side of things (such as questions about the service, any problem=
s you are having or =A0subscriptions) will be dealt with by the other admin=
s in the company. Also 1 person will now deal with all emails as we had som=
e occurances where there was a number of us answering emails and missing em=
ails so now 1 person deals with them and they aim to answer all emails with=
in 24hrs but they will aim for much faster during the London trading hours<=
/div>


<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	Let me say that this is not a negative for 4X Pips and I honestly believe =
it will help improve the pips and service and there is still plans for the =
3rd party verification, autotrade and ipad/android apps and they will be wo=
rked on by the other admins shortly. Please keep an eye on the website for =
updates on the autotrade system especially. Of course some people will view=
 this negatively (the 4-5 people above) and probably make some weird claims=
 but when the service is being negatively affected by certain people and I =
am finding my time taken up by these people and not with signals and client=
s then its best I step aside.</div>


<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	Of course I still have some good friends and good people I met through thi=
s service and will keep some of you as my personal FB friends. Some of you =
do email me asking for advice on other issues and opinion on long term trad=
es so if you wish to still keep in touch then please email 4x pips here and=
 they will give you my private email address and you can still email me whe=
n you need free advice</div>


<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	So once again thanks everybody and I will still be available into start ne=
xt week. So if you have any questions then please let me know before then.<=
/div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	Thanks again and happy trading</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	Martin</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
	<div>
		=A0</div>
	--=A0<br>
	<font color=3D"#003300">4X PIPS TEAM</font>
	<div>
		<font color=3D"#990000"><a href=3D"http://www.profitfromtrading.co.uk/" t=
arget=3D"_blank">www.profitfromtrading.co.uk</a></font></div>
</div>
<p>
	=A0</p>

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