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Subject: Re: Welcome to 4X Pips PLATINUM PLUS package -- to cancel
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Hi 4x Pips,=0A=0AI'm writing to discontinue my subscription to 4x Pips.=0A=
=0AWhile I've noticed there're some non trading related issues lingering, I=
 think the only sensible way to judge a signal service is by its true perfo=
rmance. Since your website is not up-to-date in this regard, it's difficult=
 to determine the quality of your signals.=0A=0AAnotherreason for my cancel=
lation is the inability to connect with you guys. As a Platinum Plus payer,=
 I wanted to be more involved in the 4x Pips community, esp. via Skype and =
Twitter. But after numerous attempts, I have yet to be able to connect with=
 you guys via those 2 channels (Your FB posts are too old for me to waste m=
y time on), even I sent in connection requests 2 weeks ago.=0A=0AIn the fut=
ure, when your performance (and so documented) and service improves, I may =
be willing to give it another shot. Until then, keep me posted.=0A=0AThanks=
.=0A=0AYG=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: 4x Pip=
s <admin@4xpips.net>=0ATo: Yaowen Gao <mm289@yahoo.com> =0ASent: Sunday, Se=
ptember 30, 2012 12:06 PM=0ASubject: Welcome to 4X Pips PLATINUM PLUS packa=
ge=0A =0A=0ADear Yaowen,=0AThank you for your subscription to 4x Pips tradi=
ng signals.=0A=0AHow the service works:=0ASignals=0AYou will receive on ave=
rage 2-3 signals a day in up to 20 FOREX pairs, OIL, GOLD & SILVER. Signals=
 are sent from 8AM to approx 3PM London time. The majority of signals are m=
arket orders so should be placed when you receive the signal. Below is an e=
xample of a signal similar to what you will receive=0ASELL EURUSD 1.324/5 S=
TOP 1.3300 PROFIT 1.3100=0AThe entry will always have a wider entry, so abo=
ve says you can enter from 1.3235 to 1.3254 area. This allows time for the =
signal to be sent out, collected and then executed by the trader. The probl=
em with signals saying SELL EURUSD 1.3245 would be if the price moved down =
5pips and was at 1.3240 the client would not know to enter then or wait unt=
il it went back to entry, so our approach avoids this problem.=0AWe do send=
 some pending order and they will look like=0APENDING SELL EURUSD 1.3180 ST=
OP 1.3220 PROFIT 1.3100=0AIn this case you would just enter it as an order =
and wait until it activates. If you are unsure, enter it as BUY LIMIT/BUY S=
TOP/SELL LIMIT/SELL STOP in MetaTrader4, and then try them. MetaTrader4 wil=
l warn you that the SL or TP is invalid if you have selected the incorrect =
one, if this is the case just select the other option.=0AWe send regular up=
dates on open trades and updates on current market conditions. Remember, yo=
u can close your trade anytime, we will advise what to do but it=E2=80=99s =
your account and your risk so feel free to make changes. Please be aware th=
at outside of 8AM - 3PM London time we are not normally onine so please man=
ge your trades then too.=0AFacebook -=C2=A0http://www.facebook.com/#!/marti=
n.forex=0AYou can join our private members Facebook page by connecting with=
 out chief trader using the web link above. All signals and advice are post=
ed here and it also provides a great opportunity for you to network with ot=
her traders in our community. We will approve your connection request once =
we have verified that you have an active subscribtion.=0ATwitter & Twitter =
SMS - https://twitter.com/forex4xpips=0AOur private Twitter feed provides a=
 great way to receive the signals in real time. Twitter is very easy to use=
. We recommend you set up your smartphone to alert you when we Tweet. You n=
eed to request to follow us using the link above and once we have verified =
your subscibtion we will approve the request. =C2=A0=0ATwitter SMS can be u=
p to SMS you our Tweets in real time. We recommend people use twitter as it=
s guaranteed and give immediate updates/signals as email as you know can be=
 delayed. Instructions on setting up the Twitter feed can be found here:=C2=
=A0https://support.twitter.com/articles/20169920-how-to-get-sms-notificatio=
ns-for-tweets-and-activity=0AIf Twitter or Twitter SMS is not available in =
your country then please contact us and we can arrange=C2=A0 to have our si=
gnals sent to you via SMS. This has an additional cost for us (we will not =
charge you extra) so we prefer if people use the free Twitter SMS but if it=
 is not available then please contact us and we will activate this service =
for you.=0AEmail=0AWe will send signals and updates by email, you can updat=
e your email address from within the members panel on the website if you ne=
ed to change it at any time.=0ASkype group =E2=80=93 Username: forex-4xpips=
=0AThe Skype group provides you with the opportunity to chat to us and inte=
ract with other traders. Again YOU NEED TO REQUEST TO ADD US, OUR USERNAME =
is written above. When you add us we will add you to the skype groups.=0AFe=
el free to offer your ideas and thoughts but please follow the rules below.=
 Our chief trader MARTIN is online to help and support you if you have any =
questions. We cannot guarantee to be online all day everyday but we try to =
keep to these general hours: Monday to Friday 8AM GMT to 4PM GMT. If we are=
 not online then you can contact us via email or Facebook. Sometimes the Sk=
ype group can get quite busy with traders chatting and we may log off so we=
 can concentrate on new signals or new set-ups so if you really need us and=
 we=E2=80=99re not in the Skype group then send a quick email or Facebook m=
essage.=0APLEASE NOTE WE HAVE 2 SKYPE GROUPS.=0AThe group called 4X PIPS is=
 for all traders to chat and share their ideas and ask questions. The group=
 called 4X PIPS SIGNALS ONLY is for the 4X Pips Admin to post signals ONLY.=
 As the chat can be fast moving at times in the Skype group people complain=
ed they missed us posting the signals so we will post the signals in both g=
roups now but they will remain on show for much longer in the 4X PIPS SIGNA=
LS ONLY group as there will be no flow of chat to move them on.=0ARULES FOR=
 SKYPE GROUP:=0A1. Please respect everybody in the group and their trading.=
 If people lose they lose, it happens, don't disrespect people's trading id=
eas but feel free to offer suggestions.=0A=0A2. Don't abuse or disrespect a=
nybody because of their race, age, nationality or trading experience. We al=
l want each other to profit and that's why we are here.=0A=0A3. Don't be ne=
gative towards anyone else in the group. If you have problem with any perso=
n in the group, with us or with our signals then speak to us 1-1, don't bri=
ng unnecessary negativity into the group.=0A=0A4. Feel free to post your ow=
n ideas, suggestion and trades. Please offer them as suggestions such as "I=
 bought GBPUSD now as I think it will rise, or I think GU will rise now, go=
od idea to buy....DO NOT say "buy GBPUSD now" or tell people what to do, le=
t people decide for themselves. Our signals are only advice too, we are not=
 telling anybody what to do.=0A=0A5. Do not promote any other services, we =
are happy for people to discuss them but do not post ads or such material. =
If you have something you think would help people like indicators then feel=
 free to post them. If you are looking to sell something or know something =
good for sale that would help people then inform us and we will decide if i=
ts suitable to be posted.=0A=0APlease remember that even though we are not =
online 24/7 we do look over all old posts and comments and will remove peop=
le who break the above rules.=C2=A0=0AAs I said above we are all here to he=
lp each other and make some profits.=0ATo your success.=0ABest wishes,=0ATh=
e 4x Pips Team
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt">Hi 4x Pips,<br><br>I'=
m writing to <span style=3D"color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">discontinue my subscrip=
tion</span> to 4x Pips.<br><br>While I've noticed there're some non trading=
 related issues lingering, I think the only sensible way to judge a signal =
service is by its true <span style=3D"font-weight: bold;"><span style=3D"co=
lor: rgb(191, 0, 191);">performance</span></span>. Since your website is <s=
pan style=3D"font-weight: bold;"><span style=3D"color: rgb(127, 0, 63);">no=
t up-to-date</span></span> in this regard, it's difficult to determine the =
quality of your signals.<br><br><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"><spa=
n style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Another</span></span><span style=3D"color: r=
gb(0, 0, 255);"> <span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">reason</span></span> fo=
r my cancellation is the inability to connect with you guys. As a Platinum =
Plus payer, I
 wanted to be more involved in the 4x Pips community, esp. via <span style=
=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Skype and Tw=
itter</span></span>. But after numerous attempts, <span style=3D"color: rgb=
(0, 0, 255);"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">I have yet to be able to c=
onnect with you guys</span></span> via those 2 channels (Your FB posts are =
too old for me to waste my time on), even I sent in connection requests 2 w=
eeks ago.<br><br>In the future, when your performance (and so documented) a=
nd service improves, I may be willing to give it another shot. Until then, =
keep me posted.<br><br>Thanks.<br><br>YG <br><div><span><br></span></div><d=
iv><span></span></div><div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family: times new=
 roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style=3D"font-famil=
y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"=
ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <hr size=3D"1">  <b><span
 style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> 4x Pips &lt;admin@4xpips.net&=
gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Yaowen Gao &lt=
;mm289@yahoo.com&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span=
></b> Sunday, September 30, 2012 12:06 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight=
: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Welcome to 4X Pips PLATINUM PLUS package<br> <=
/font> </div> <br>=0A<meta http-equiv=3D"x-dns-prefetch-control" content=3D=
"off"><div id=3D"yiv1301007033"><div>=0A=09Dear Yaowen,</div>=0A<div>=0A=09=
Thank you for your subscription to 4x Pips trading signals.<br>=0A=09<br>=
=0A=09<b>How the service works:</b></div>=0A<div>=0A=09<b>Signals</b></div>=
=0A<div>=0A=09You will receive on average 2-3 signals a day in up to 20 FOR=
EX pairs, OIL, GOLD &amp; SILVER. Signals are sent from 8AM to approx 3PM L=
ondon time. The majority of signals are market orders so should be placed w=
hen you receive the signal. Below is an example of a signal similar to what=
 you will receive</div>=0A<div>=0A=09<b>SELL EURUSD 1.324/5 STOP 1.3300 PRO=
FIT 1.3100</b></div>=0A<div>=0A=09The entry will always have a wider entry,=
 so above says you can enter from 1.3235 to 1.3254 area. This allows time f=
or the signal to be sent out, collected and then executed by the trader. Th=
e problem with signals saying SELL EURUSD 1.3245 would be if the price move=
d down 5pips and was at 1.3240 the client would not know to enter then or w=
ait until it went back to entry, so our approach avoids this problem.</div>=
=0A<div>=0A=09We do send some pending order and they will look like</div>=
=0A<div>=0A=09<b>PENDING SELL EURUSD 1.3180 STOP 1.3220 PROFIT 1.3100</b></=
div>=0A<div>=0A=09In this case you would just enter it as an order and wait=
 until it activates. If you are unsure, enter it as BUY LIMIT/BUY STOP/SELL=
 LIMIT/SELL STOP in MetaTrader4, and then try them. MetaTrader4 will warn y=
ou that the SL or TP is invalid if you have selected the incorrect one, if =
this is the case just select the other option.</div>=0A<div>=0A=09We send r=
egular updates on open trades and updates on current market conditions. Rem=
ember, you can close your trade anytime, we will advise what to do but it=
=E2=80=99s your account and your risk so feel free to make changes. Please =
be aware that outside of 8AM - 3PM London time we are not normally onine so=
 please mange your trades then too.</div>=0A<div>=0A=09<b>Facebook -&nbsp;<=
/b>http://www.facebook.com/#!/martin.forex</div>=0A<div>=0A=09You can join =
our private members Facebook page by connecting with out chief trader using=
 the web link above. All signals and advice are posted here and it also pro=
vides a great opportunity for you to network with other traders in our comm=
unity. We will approve your connection request once we have verified that y=
ou have an active subscribtion.</div>=0A<div>=0A=09<b>Twitter &amp; Twitter=
 SMS - </b><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://twitter.co=
m/forex4xpips">https://twitter.com/forex4xpips</a></div>=0A<div>=0A=09Our p=
rivate Twitter feed provides a great way to receive the signals in real tim=
e. Twitter is very easy to use. We recommend you set up your smartphone to =
alert you when we Tweet. You need to request to follow us using the link ab=
ove and once we have verified your subscibtion we will approve the request.=
 &nbsp;</div>=0A<div>=0A=09Twitter SMS can be up to SMS you our Tweets in r=
eal time. We recommend people use twitter as its guaranteed and give immedi=
ate updates/signals as email as you know can be delayed. Instructions on se=
tting up the Twitter feed can be found here:&nbsp;<a rel=3D"nofollow" targe=
t=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://support.twitter.com/articles/20169920-how-to-g=
et-sms-notifications-for-tweets-and-activity">https://support.twitter.com/a=
rticles/20169920-how-to-get-sms-notifications-for-tweets-and-activity</a></=
div>=0A<div>=0A=09If Twitter or Twitter SMS is not available in your countr=
y then please contact us and we can arrange&nbsp; to have our signals sent =
to you via SMS. This has an additional cost for us (we will not charge you =
extra) so we prefer if people use the free Twitter SMS but if it is not ava=
ilable then please contact us and we will activate this service for you.</d=
iv>=0A<div>=0A=09<b>Email</b></div>=0A<div>=0A=09We will send signals and u=
pdates by email, you can update your email address from within the members =
panel on the website if you need to change it at any time.</div>=0A<div>=0A=
=09<b>Skype group =E2=80=93 Username: </b>forex-4xpips</div>=0A<div>=0A=09T=
he Skype group provides you with the opportunity to chat to us and interact=
 with other traders. Again YOU NEED TO REQUEST TO ADD US, OUR USERNAME is w=
ritten above. When you add us we will add you to the skype groups.</div>=0A=
<div>=0A=09Feel free to offer your ideas and thoughts but please follow the=
 rules below. Our chief trader MARTIN is online to help and support you if =
you have any questions. We cannot guarantee to be online all day everyday b=
ut we try to keep to these general hours: Monday to Friday 8AM GMT to 4PM G=
MT. If we are not online then you can contact us via email or Facebook. Som=
etimes the Skype group can get quite busy with traders chatting and we may =
log off so we can concentrate on new signals or new set-ups so if you reall=
y need us and we=E2=80=99re not in the Skype group then send a quick email =
or Facebook message.</div>=0A<div>=0A=09PLEASE NOTE WE HAVE 2 SKYPE GROUPS.=
</div>=0A<div>=0A=09The group called 4X PIPS is for all traders to chat and=
 share their ideas and ask questions. The group called 4X PIPS SIGNALS ONLY=
 is for the 4X Pips Admin to post signals ONLY. As the chat can be fast mov=
ing at times in the Skype group people complained they missed us posting th=
e signals so we will post the signals in both groups now but they will rema=
in on show for much longer in the 4X PIPS SIGNALS ONLY group as there will =
be no flow of chat to move them on.</div>=0A<div>=0A=09<b>RULES FOR SKYPE G=
ROUP:</b></div>=0A<div>=0A=091. Please respect everybody in the group and t=
heir trading. If people lose they lose, it happens, don't disrespect people=
's trading ideas but feel free to offer suggestions.<br>=0A=09<br>=0A=092. =
Don't abuse or disrespect anybody because of their race, age, nationality o=
r trading experience. We all want each other to profit and that's why we ar=
e here.<br>=0A=09<br>=0A=093. Don't be negative towards anyone else in the =
group. If you have problem with any person in the group, with us or with ou=
r signals then speak to us 1-1, don't bring unnecessary negativity into the=
 group.<br>=0A=09<br>=0A=094. Feel free to post your own ideas, suggestion =
and trades. Please offer them as suggestions such as "I bought GBPUSD now a=
s I think it will rise, or I think GU will rise now, good idea to buy....DO=
 NOT say "buy GBPUSD now" or tell people what to do, let people decide for =
themselves. Our signals are only advice too, we are not telling anybody wha=
t to do.<br>=0A=09<br>=0A=095. Do not promote any other services, we are ha=
ppy for people to discuss them but do not post ads or such material. If you=
 have something you think would help people like indicators then feel free =
to post them. If you are looking to sell something or know something good f=
or sale that would help people then inform us and we will decide if its sui=
table to be posted.<br>=0A=09<br>=0A=09Please remember that even though we =
are not online 24/7 we do look over all old posts and comments and will rem=
ove people who break the above rules.&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>=0A=09As I said ab=
ove we are all here to help each other and make some profits.</div>=0A<div>=
=0A=09To your success.</div>=0A<div>=0A=09Best wishes,<br>=0A=09The 4x Pips=
 Team</div>=0A</div><meta http-equiv=3D"x-dns-prefetch-control" content=3D"=
on"><br><br> </div> </div>  </div></body></html>
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