Return-path: Envelope-to: admin@4xpips.net Delivery-date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:13:35 -0500 Received: from mxout.myoutlookonline.com ([64.95.72.241]:23147) by host.silverbacklabs.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TVRB0-0007rA-FH for admin@4xpips.net; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:13:35 -0500 Received: from mxout.myoutlookonline.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mxout.myoutlookonline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C0E7DEE17 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:48:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mail.lan Received: from HUB016.mail.lan (unknown [10.110.2.1]) by mxout.myoutlookonline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B5D7DE9A4 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:48:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAILR003.mail.lan ([10.110.18.19]) by HUB016.mail.lan ([10.110.17.16]) with mapi; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:13:26 -0500 From: Mike Rickards To: 4x Pips Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:13:26 -0500 Subject: RE: CHANGE TO SERVICE Thread-Topic: CHANGE TO SERVICE Thread-Index: Ac21uhdS0p+q8PB2SUSKySYRcY2JRwAACLZQ Message-ID: References: <5E793324-8FDC-4C72-93E7-05E2575D1A65@zoticus.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B6E150A0ADC4A749B0B95606096D565819FE43498FMAILR003maill_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_B6E150A0ADC4A749B0B95606096D565819FE43498FMAILR003maill_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Martin Did you process the refund ? Regards Mike Sent 29th Oct. 2012 Hello Martin I don't believe that since I signed up with the service it has performed as= I would have expected. Whilst I appreciate that you were taken gravely ill for a number of days at= the "start of my service", I didn't expect the service to simply reply upo= n one person. I've no doubt that TCi (whoever that is) is a capable trader, but at presen= t I'm not convinced. Consequently, a refund at this juncture is appropriate. Maybe as a way to reconcile this can be achieved as follows: A two-week tri= al period with TCi commencing from the 1st November. My reservation is "who is TCi" and will "TCi" make this the same successful= business it was under your stewardship; and whop covers for TCi when he is= ill. Sincerest regards Mike Col. Mike Rickards Zoticus T. +44 (0) 7885 436380 From: 4x Pips [mailto:admin@4xpips.net] Sent: 29 October 2012 09:45 To: Mike Rickards Subject: Re: CHANGE TO SERVICE Hi Mike Can I ask why you asked for the refund? I can assure you the service will n= ot harmed in any way and in my opinion this will make the service better an= d give more pip per month. I am certain of that. So if you are concenred ab= out me leaving and the service changing then please don't be, i can persona= lly guaarntee I would not let anything bad to the service but I am happy to= let TCi take over as it will beneficial for all Thanks Martin On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Mike Rickards > wrote: Hello Martin This is quite shocking and not exactly what I signed up for when the offer = was posted on FPA. I have requested a full refund via PayPal and I hope you get these issues r= esolved. I was also frankly shocked to read that people had made personal t= hreats towards you. I wish you all the best. Regards Col. Mike Rickards Zoticus On 27 Oct 2012, at 14:13, "4x Pips" > wrote: Hi all It is with great regret that I have decided to step aside at 4X Pips after = 4 fantastic years. Unfortunately the past 1-2 months the signals have not b= een the best, even though the last week we are back to some profit, and pe= ople who have recently joined have decided to target a lot of anger and abu= se directly at me. Recently I have had personal threats, had blatant lies t= old about me, people posting untrue facts about me and my private live and = had people creating fake Facebook profiles to try and befriend me on FB and= check into my private and personal life. For everyone who knows me through= the group or knows me personally and knows the service for more than 3 mon= ths they will know that I have always worked hard (16 hour days sometimes) = to give people a reliable, honest and fair signal service. Its just unfortu= nate that we have had a losing few weeks after the FPA offer and new websit= e. Its also unfortunate that from the 100's of clients (and 1000's over the pa= st few years) that its only 4-5 people who made it personal against me and = decided to target me direct. So for that reason I am stepping aside as it m= eans someone else can step in and run the service better without this level= of abuse and personal attacks. So on that note, I have asked TCi who has been giving excellent pips over t= he past 2 months in the skype group to take over. He will have access to ou= r other traders and it will be his decision whether to send the other trade= rs signals out or hold them or adjust them. He will be available in the sky= pe groups and you can ask for his help and support there. His signals and u= pdates will be sent out as usual by email, twitter, twitter sms and faceboo= k. In my opinion this will improve the signals and service and lead to good= pips and profits. I can honestly say if TCi was not available then I would= continue but I have known him for a long time now and am so impressed with= his signals and work that I am happy for him to provide the signals for 4X= Pips signals. All signals will still have entry, stop loss and TP and will= be similar to the signals we had this week with smaller SL's which will be= better. There will also be more major pairs such as EU, GU, AU & UC. Peopl= e will see no change to the service, you will still get approx the same num= ber of signals, sent the same way, TCi will be admin of the skype group and= email support will still be available from other admins. I may join the sk= ype group as a client in the coming weeks and will be happy to chat to fell= ow clients when I do The admin side of things (such as questions about the service, any problems= you are having or subscriptions) will be dealt with by the other admins i= n the company. Also 1 person will now deal with all emails as we had some o= ccurances where there was a number of us answering emails and missing email= s so now 1 person deals with them and they aim to answer all emails within = 24hrs but they will aim for much faster during the London trading hours Let me say that this is not a negative for 4X Pips and I honestly believe i= t will help improve the pips and service and there is still plans for the 3= rd party verification, autotrade and ipad/android apps and they will be wor= ked on by the other admins shortly. Please keep an eye on the website for u= pdates on the autotrade system especially. Of course some people will view = this negatively (the 4-5 people above) and probably make some weird claims = but when the service is being negatively affected by certain people and I a= m finding my time taken up by these people and not with signals and clients= then its best I step aside. Of course I still have some good friends and good people I met through this= service and will keep some of you as my personal FB friends. Some of you d= o email me asking for advice on other issues and opinion on long term trade= s so if you wish to still keep in touch then please email 4x pips here and = they will give you my private email address and you can still email me when= you need free advice So once again thanks everybody and I will still be available into start nex= t week. So if you have any questions then please let me know before then. Thanks again and happy trading Martin -- 4X PIPS TEAM www.profitfromtrading.co.uk To unsubscribe from our periodic e-mail messages, please click the followin= g link --_000_B6E150A0ADC4A749B0B95606096D565819FE43498FMAILR003maill_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Mar= tin

 

Did you process the refund ?

 

Regards

 

Mike

 

Sent 29th Oct. 2012<= /i>

Hello Martin

 

= I don’t believe that since I signed up with the service it has= performed as I would have expected.

 

Whilst I= appreciate that you were taken gravely ill for a number of days at the = 220;start of my service”, I didn’t expect the service to simply= reply upon one person.

 

I’ve no doubt t= hat TCi (whoever that is) is a capable trader, but at present I’m not= convinced.

 

Consequently, a refund at this ju= ncture is appropriate.

 

Maybe as a way to reco= ncile this can be achieved as follows: A two-week trial period with TCi com= mencing from the 1st November.

 

My = reservation is “who is TCi” and will “TCi” make thi= s the same successful business it was under your stewardship; and whop cove= rs for TCi when he is ill.

 

Sincerest regards<= o:p>

 

Mike

 

Col. Mike = Rickards

Zoticus

T. +44  (0) 7885 436380

 

From: 4x Pips [mailto:admin@4xpips= .net]
Sent: 29 October 2012 09:45
To: Mike RickardsSubject: Re: CHANGE TO SERVICE

 

Hi Mike

Can I ask why you asked for the refund? I can assure you= the service will not harmed in any way and in my opinion this will make th= e service better and give more pip per month. I am certain of that. So if y= ou are concenred about me leaving and the service changing then please don'= t be, i can personally guaarntee I would not let anything bad to the servic= e but I am happy to let TCi take over as it will beneficial for all

= Thanks
Martin

On Sun, Oct 28, 20= 12 at 4:04 PM, Mike Rickards <mike.rickards@zoticus.co.uk> wrote:

Hello Martin

<= p class=3DMsoNormal> 

Th= is is quite shocking and not exactly what I signed up for when the offer wa= s posted on FPA. 

&= nbsp;

I have requested a full refu= nd via PayPal and I hope you get these issues resolved. I was also frankly = shocked to read that people had made personal threats towards you. 

 

I wish you all the best.

Regards

Col. Mike Rickards

Zoticus


On 27 Oct 2012, at 14:13, "4x Pip= s" <admin@4xp= ips.net> wrote:

Hi all

 

It = is with great regret that I have decided to step aside at 4X Pips after 4 f= antastic years. Unfortunately the past 1-2 months the signals have not been= the best, even though the last week we are back to some profit,  and = people who have recently joined have decided to target a lot of anger and a= buse directly at me. Recently I have had personal threats, had blatant lies= told about me, people posting untrue facts about me and my private live an= d had people creating fake Facebook profiles to try and befriend me on FB a= nd check into my private and personal life. For everyone who knows me throu= gh the group or knows me personally and knows the service for more than 3 m= onths they will know that I have always worked hard (16 hour days sometimes= ) to give people a reliable, honest and fair signal service. Its just unfor= tunate that we have had a losing few weeks after the FPA offer and new webs= ite.

 

Its also = unfortunate that from the 100's of clients (and 1000's over the past few ye= ars) that its only 4-5 people who made it personal against me and decided t= o target me direct. So for that reason I am stepping aside as it means some= one else can step in and run the service better without this level of abuse= and personal attacks. 

 

So on that note, I have asked TCi who has been giving excell= ent pips over the past 2 months in the skype group to take over. He will ha= ve access to our other traders and it will be his decision whether to send = the other traders signals out or hold them or adjust them. He will be avail= able in the skype groups and you can ask for his help and support there. Hi= s signals and updates will be sent out as usual by email, twitter, twitter = sms and facebook. In my opinion this will improve the signals and service a= nd lead to good pips and profits. I can honestly say if TCi was not availab= le then I would continue but I have known him for a long time now and am so= impressed with his signals and work that I am happy for him to provide the= signals for 4X Pips signals. All signals will still have entry, stop loss = and TP and will be similar to the signals we had this week with smaller SL'= s which will be better. There will also be more major pairs such as EU, GU,= AU & UC. People will see no change to the service, you will still get = approx the same number of signals, sent the same way, TCi will be admin of = the skype group and email support will still be available from other admins= . I may join the skype group as a client in the coming weeks and will be ha= ppy to chat to fellow clients when I do

 

The admin side of things (such as questions about= the service, any problems you are having or  subscriptions) will be d= ealt with by the other admins in the company. Also 1 person will now deal w= ith all emails as we had some occurances where there was a number of us ans= wering emails and missing emails so now 1 person deals with them and they a= im to answer all emails within 24hrs but they will aim for much faster duri= ng the London trading hours

 

Let me say that this is not a negative for 4X Pips and I hone= stly believe it will help improve the pips and service and there is still p= lans for the 3rd party verification, autotrade and ipad/android apps and th= ey will be worked on by the other admins shortly. Please keep an eye on the= website for updates on the autotrade system especially. Of course some peo= ple will view this negatively (the 4-5 people above) and probably make some= weird claims but when the service is being negatively affected by certain = people and I am finding my time taken up by these people and not with signa= ls and clients then its best I step aside.

=

 = ;

Of course I still have some good friends and g= ood people I met through this service and will keep some of you as my perso= nal FB friends. Some of you do email me asking for advice on other issues a= nd opinion on long term trades so if you wish to still keep in touch then p= lease email 4x pips here and they will give you my private email address an= d you can still email me when you need free advice

 

So once again thanks everybody and I = will still be available into start next week. So if you have any questions = then please let me know before then.

 =

Thanks again and happy trading

=

Martin

 

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