Return-path: Envelope-to: admin@4xpips.net Delivery-date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:22:54 -0500 Received: from mxout.myoutlookonline.com ([64.95.72.241]:55545) by host.silverbacklabs.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TVmrV-0000sq-8Q for admin@4xpips.net; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:22:53 -0500 Received: from mxout.myoutlookonline.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mxout.myoutlookonline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187FB8BEBD1 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:22:51 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mail.lan Received: from HUB013.mail.lan (unknown [10.110.2.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mxout.myoutlookonline.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DD2F8BEAEE for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:22:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAILR003.mail.lan ([10.110.18.19]) by HUB013.mail.lan ([10.110.17.13]) with mapi; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:22:39 -0500 From: Mike Rickards To: 4x Pips Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:22:45 -0500 Subject: RE: CHANGE TO SERVICE Thread-Topic: CHANGE TO SERVICE Thread-Index: Ac28Q1XkS1Nodno2QiK9Rrixcz8tsw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B6E150A0ADC4A749B0B95606096D565819FE434BECMAILR003maill_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_B6E150A0ADC4A749B0B95606096D565819FE434BECMAILR003maill_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Martin I may not have made myself clear. I wish to get a refund now and then trial= the service with TCI from a given start date. I hope this is clear and apologies for any confusion. Sincerest regards Col. Mike Rickards T. +44 7885 436380 From: 4x Pips [mailto:admin@4xpips.net] Sent: 06 November 2012 03:33 To: Mike Rickards Subject: Re: CHANGE TO SERVICE Dear Mike We moved you onto the free 2 week trial with TCi as requested below As for who is TCI, we have been using him for few months and he has been gi= ving signals in the skype group and making good pips, he averaged over 1000= pips every month in 2011 with greater success in 2012 so we know he is a go= od trader. He also trains many people in trading Your 2 weeks will continue until mid Nov so we will contact you then to see= how you have found his signals regards On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Mike Rickards > wrote: Hello Martin Did you process the refund ? Regards Mike Sent 29th Oct. 2012 Hello Martin I don't believe that since I signed up with the service it has performed as= I would have expected. Whilst I appreciate that you were taken gravely ill for a number of days at= the "start of my service", I didn't expect the service to simply reply upo= n one person. I've no doubt that TCi (whoever that is) is a capable trader, but at presen= t I'm not convinced. Consequently, a refund at this juncture is appropriate. Maybe as a way to reconcile this can be achieved as follows: A two-week tri= al period with TCi commencing from the 1st November. My reservation is "who is TCi" and will "TCi" make this the same successful= business it was under your stewardship; and whop covers for TCi when he is= ill. Sincerest regards Mike Col. Mike Rickards Zoticus T. +44 (0) 7885 436380 From: 4x Pips [mailto:admin@4xpips.net] Sent: 29 October 2012 09:45 To: Mike Rickards Subject: Re: CHANGE TO SERVICE Hi Mike Can I ask why you asked for the refund? I can assure you the service will n= ot harmed in any way and in my opinion this will make the service better an= d give more pip per month. I am certain of that. So if you are concenred ab= out me leaving and the service changing then please don't be, i can persona= lly guaarntee I would not let anything bad to the service but I am happy to= let TCi take over as it will beneficial for all Thanks Martin On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Mike Rickards > wrote: Hello Martin This is quite shocking and not exactly what I signed up for when the offer = was posted on FPA. I have requested a full refund via PayPal and I hope you get these issues r= esolved. I was also frankly shocked to read that people had made personal t= hreats towards you. I wish you all the best. Regards Col. Mike Rickards Zoticus On 27 Oct 2012, at 14:13, "4x Pips" > wrote: Hi all It is with great regret that I have decided to step aside at 4X Pips after = 4 fantastic years. Unfortunately the past 1-2 months the signals have not b= een the best, even though the last week we are back to some profit, and pe= ople who have recently joined have decided to target a lot of anger and abu= se directly at me. Recently I have had personal threats, had blatant lies t= old about me, people posting untrue facts about me and my private live and = had people creating fake Facebook profiles to try and befriend me on FB and= check into my private and personal life. For everyone who knows me through= the group or knows me personally and knows the service for more than 3 mon= ths they will know that I have always worked hard (16 hour days sometimes) = to give people a reliable, honest and fair signal service. Its just unfortu= nate that we have had a losing few weeks after the FPA offer and new websit= e. Its also unfortunate that from the 100's of clients (and 1000's over the pa= st few years) that its only 4-5 people who made it personal against me and = decided to target me direct. So for that reason I am stepping aside as it m= eans someone else can step in and run the service better without this level= of abuse and personal attacks. So on that note, I have asked TCi who has been giving excellent pips over t= he past 2 months in the skype group to take over. He will have access to ou= r other traders and it will be his decision whether to send the other trade= rs signals out or hold them or adjust them. He will be available in the sky= pe groups and you can ask for his help and support there. His signals and u= pdates will be sent out as usual by email, twitter, twitter sms and faceboo= k. In my opinion this will improve the signals and service and lead to good= pips and profits. I can honestly say if TCi was not available then I would= continue but I have known him for a long time now and am so impressed with= his signals and work that I am happy for him to provide the signals for 4X= Pips signals. All signals will still have entry, stop loss and TP and will= be similar to the signals we had this week with smaller SL's which will be= better. There will also be more major pairs such as EU, GU, AU & UC. Peopl= e will see no change to the service, you will still get approx the same num= ber of signals, sent the same way, TCi will be admin of the skype group and= email support will still be available from other admins. I may join the sk= ype group as a client in the coming weeks and will be happy to chat to fell= ow clients when I do The admin side of things (such as questions about the service, any problems= you are having or subscriptions) will be dealt with by the other admins i= n the company. Also 1 person will now deal with all emails as we had some o= ccurances where there was a number of us answering emails and missing email= s so now 1 person deals with them and they aim to answer all emails within = 24hrs but they will aim for much faster during the London trading hours Let me say that this is not a negative for 4X Pips and I honestly believe i= t will help improve the pips and service and there is still plans for the 3= rd party verification, autotrade and ipad/android apps and they will be wor= ked on by the other admins shortly. Please keep an eye on the website for u= pdates on the autotrade system especially. Of course some people will view = this negatively (the 4-5 people above) and probably make some weird claims = but when the service is being negatively affected by certain people and I a= m finding my time taken up by these people and not with signals and clients= then its best I step aside. Of course I still have some good friends and good people I met through this= service and will keep some of you as my personal FB friends. Some of you d= o email me asking for advice on other issues and opinion on long term trade= s so if you wish to still keep in touch then please email 4x pips here and = they will give you my private email address and you can still email me when= you need free advice So once again thanks everybody and I will still be available into start nex= t week. So if you have any questions then please let me know before then. Thanks again and happy trading Martin -- 4X PIPS TEAM www.profitfromtrading.co.uk To unsubscribe from our periodic e-mail messages, please click the followin= g link --_000_B6E150A0ADC4A749B0B95606096D565819FE434BECMAILR003maill_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Mar= tin

 

I may not have made myself clear. I wish = to get a refund now and then trial the service with TCI from a given start = date.

 

I hope this is clear and apologies for = any confusion.

 =

Sincerest regards

 

Col. Mike Rickards

T. +44  7885 436380

 

From:= 4x Pips [mailto:admin@4xpips.net]
Sent: 06 Nove= mber 2012 03:33
To: Mike Rickards
Subject: Re: CHANGE T= O SERVICE

 

Dear Mike

We moved= you onto the free 2 week trial with TCi as requested below

As for w= ho is TCI, we have been using him for few months and he has been giving sig= nals in the skype group and making good pips, he averaged over 1000pips eve= ry month in 2011 with greater success in 2012 so we know he is a good trade= r. He also trains many people in trading

Your 2 weeks will continue= until mid Nov so we will contact you then to see how you have found his si= gnals

regards

On Tue, Nov 6,= 2012 at 1:13 AM, Mike Rickards <mike.rickards@zoticus.co.uk> wrote:

Hello Martin

<= span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F= 497D'> 

Did you process the refund = ?

 

<= span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F= 497D'>Regards

 

Mike

 <= /o:p>

Sent 29th Oct. 2012<= o:p>

Hello Martin

<= span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F= 497D'> 

I don’t believe that = since I signed up with the service it has performed as I would have expecte= d.

 

<= span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F= 497D'>Whilst I appreciate that you were taken gravely ill for a number of d= ays at the “start of my service”, I didn’t expect the ser= vice to simply reply upon one person.

&n= bsp;

I’ve no doubt that TCi (whoev= er that is) is a capable trader, but at present I’m not convinced.

 

= Consequently, a refund at this juncture is appropriate.

 

Maybe as a way to= reconcile this can be achieved as follows: A two-week trial period with TC= i commencing from the 1st November.

=  

My reservation is “w= ho is TCi” and will “TCi” make this the same successful b= usiness it was under your stewardship; and whop covers for TCi when he is i= ll.

 

<= span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F= 497D'>Sincerest regards

 

Mike

 

Col. Mike Rickards

Zoticus

T. +44  (0) 788= 5 436380

 

From: 4x Pips [mailto:admin@4xpips.net]
Sent: 29 Octo= ber 2012 09:45
To: Mike Rickards
Subject: Re: CHANGE TO= SERVICE

 

Hi Mike



Can I ask why you asked = for the refund? I can assure you the service will not harmed in any way and= in my opinion this will make the service better and give more pip per mont= h. I am certain of that. So if you are concenred about me leaving and the s= ervice changing then please don't be, i can personally guaarntee I would no= t let anything bad to the service but I am happy to let TCi take over as it= will beneficial for all

Thanks
Martin

=

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Mike Rickards <mike.rickard= s@zoticus.co.uk> wrote:

Hello Martin<= o:p>

 

This= is quite shocking and not exactly what I signed up for when the offer was = posted on FPA. 

 

<= /div>

I have requested a full refund via PayPal and I hope you g= et these issues resolved. I was also frankly shocked to read that people ha= d made personal threats towards you. 

=  

I wish you all the best.

Rega= rds

Col. Mike Rickards

<= p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:= auto'>Zoticus


On 27 Oct 2012, at 14:13,= "4x Pips" <admin@4xpips.net> wrote:

Hi all

 

It is with great = regret that I have decided to step aside at 4X Pips after 4 fantastic years= . Unfortunately the past 1-2 months the signals have not been the best, eve= n though the last week we are back to some profit,  and people who hav= e recently joined have decided to target a lot of anger and abuse directly = at me. Recently I have had personal threats, had blatant lies told about me= , people posting untrue facts about me and my private live and had people c= reating fake Facebook profiles to try and befriend me on FB and check into = my private and personal life. For everyone who knows me through the group o= r knows me personally and knows the service for more than 3 months they wil= l know that I have always worked hard (16 hour days sometimes) to give peop= le a reliable, honest and fair signal service. Its just unfortunate that we= have had a losing few weeks after the FPA offer and new website.

 

Its also unfortunate that from the 100's of clients= (and 1000's over the past few years) that its only 4-5 people who made it = personal against me and decided to target me direct. So for that reason I a= m stepping aside as it means someone else can step in and run the service b= etter without this level of abuse and personal attacks. 

=  

So on that note, I have asked TCi who has been giving e= xcellent pips over the past 2 months in the skype group to take over. He wi= ll have access to our other traders and it will be his decision whether to = send the other traders signals out or hold them or adjust them. He will be = available in the skype groups and you can ask for his help and support ther= e. His signals and updates will be sent out as usual by email, twitter, twi= tter sms and facebook. In my opinion this will improve the signals and serv= ice and lead to good pips and profits. I can honestly say if TCi was not av= ailable then I would continue but I have known him for a long time now and = am so impressed with his signals and work that I am happy for him to provid= e the signals for 4X Pips signals. All signals will still have entry, stop = loss and TP and will be similar to the signals we had this week with smalle= r SL's which will be better. There will also be more major pairs such as EU= , GU, AU & UC. People will see no change to the service, you will still= get approx the same number of signals, sent the same way, TCi will be admi= n of the skype group and email support will still be available from other a= dmins. I may join the skype group as a client in the coming weeks and will = be happy to chat to fellow clients when I do

 

The admin side of things (such as questions about the service, any probl= ems you are having or  subscriptions) will be dealt with by the other = admins in the company. Also 1 person will now deal with all emails as we ha= d some occurances where there was a number of us answering emails and missi= ng emails so now 1 person deals with them and they aim to answer all emails= within 24hrs but they will aim for much faster during the London trading h= ours

 

Let me say that this is not a negativ= e for 4X Pips and I honestly believe it will help improve the pips and serv= ice and there is still plans for the 3rd party verification, autotrade and = ipad/android apps and they will be worked on by the other admins shortly. P= lease keep an eye on the website for updates on the autotrade system especi= ally. Of course some people will view this negatively (the 4-5 people above= ) and probably make some weird claims but when the service is being negativ= ely affected by certain people and I am finding my time taken up by these p= eople and not with signals and clients then its best I step aside.

 

Of course I still have some good friends and good = people I met through this service and will keep some of you as my personal = FB friends. Some of you do email me asking for advice on other issues and o= pinion on long term trades so if you wish to still keep in touch then pleas= e email 4x pips here and they will give you my private email address and yo= u can still email me when you need free advice

<= div>

 

So once again thanks everybody and I will still be available into star= t next week. So if you have any questions then please let me know before th= en.

 

Thanks again and happy trading=

Martin

 

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