Return-path: Envelope-to: admin@4xpips.net Delivery-date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:31:07 -0500 Received: from nm7-vm3.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com ([106.10.148.178]:33514) by host.silverbacklabs.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TtWGk-0005mP-NY for admin@4xpips.net; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:31:03 -0500 Received: from [106.10.166.126] by nm7.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2013 04:30:55 -0000 Received: from [106.10.167.108] by tm15.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2013 04:30:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110-mob.biz.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2013 04:30:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1357878655; bh=vHafP9003bfaqzwaAXhjnFJXtlF1V8xZJHPS+NsLVYY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=b9zT4hhB58yuJmOKF0U0kJKX6XQBkMufCVBVEeQm85hJgWTs2ubmcmNRbVYu3x4Q38EkHY9//HCuw85tL7fD/QAJFab8WwuJvnto7RFrZAQHHsH99/ZGlNSlVex7B6MKicM37u+1CXz/GRhMbWCsMPeopX1aa9JVsNh3CeaHCmU= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 535498.8627.bm@smtp110-mob.biz.mail.sg3.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: KoFZasMVM1n7Uow8bQgp89d4FKpzfuspGoNnhqmOX84kQbg aqfd5PGF_QZeyMpMxiLnVIfTxnMLr1DrxMyvx4jZSh_YzuyJaEG8Pm3Uj3bj BZf2IsgX7cFCsU.5Al6LGifhEZwXfV0N1kb9TK2SiLVD5f73boQeJlATXqwC hdie6TR3qSkMHk3.lSUcwgdBqXoL8gQfKZFHWS9t11wIxP61c0qT.YDp3jPD CbmhaH.5ZKsmoa7ZTlwV0HGcfMowf2JHkYSG3KBpxKWI0_aAiEYrQPJlv38i 6Nu_2w5fcXkK1JNyYYblRRYddwcPr9ltVG4Oryf7tiPAj4n8eUk67RCWBIeT miL1ytts4tY8KsO_QNAix6Aus82RAsPkIWHgXHcidUl9.JL3z0NwFox_tzDQ s_OcOPYJnGc0NURdvK0.cpACZ26yzpjGHy23HdtIFO_sMWwD30EMsiBSIEGi oH6md7o9VvEZwCLfR5J8Tq7qznIbV85heXkQ.jYrSubWScG4SYciAMppW3ih OC7O4oGZ_EeF4._QW68fFhwdHrjqg7UAcbkzy94mMQR5AOMp6pGml0CssKiN 6Wdv0GqT.Dsp__TuXVv1aHZUQ7Q4itvNWTVO0s.WhKompw5SqP2kp3x09gtO G X-Yahoo-SMTP: TMKwSPSswBDQFbUI7NsBYM5q3TzdmbL3umYO Received: from [10.234.175.76] (helix_siewkong@203.117.37.220 with xymcookie) by smtp110-mob.biz.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2013 04:30:55 +0000 UTC Subject: Re: EXPLANATION References: <9704EB31-CACB-40B6-8822-5A9CA21B8698@yahoo.com> From: Klein Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2FE4E565-446F-4423-8338-6F6F382A8116 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:30:38 +0800 To: 4x Pips Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-2FE4E565-446F-4423-8338-6F6F382A8116 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Admin, Noted with thanks. However, we are worried this month may not be able to mee= t our breakeven for the loss of these 3 months. Actually we had lost more th= an 500 pips within these 3 months due to your signal and i believe your clie= nts and you should have encountered the same result with us. Nevermind, we just look forward on your signal performance first and wish al= l of us have a impressive profitable month. May i know when does this complimentary start? Please advise me soonest. Anyway, thanks for your complimentary month. Regards, Klein Sent from my iPhone On 11 Jan, 2013, at 3:48 AM, 4x Pips wrote: > Hi >=20 > Ok lets re-add you for 1 month initally and go from there >=20 > Thanks >=20 > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Klein wrote: > This is not my post. Im from singapore and my FPA account is klein880611. A= nd my real full name is Tang Siew Kong instead of S.K Tan. Please check it o= ut. I swear i never write any offensive review. >=20 > Oppositely please check your history in Skype, i remember i did write some= thing very supportive and defensive message to your service. However, i was r= eplied with some scolding words by your group members. >=20 > Please check on your side. >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > Regards, > Klein >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On 10 Jan, 2013, at 4:02 PM, 4x Pips wrote: >=20 >> Hi >>=20 >> Is this your FPA review? Thanks >>=20 >> S.K Tan, , Singapore >> Rating: =09 >> Date of Post: 2012-10-27 >> Review: Basically Oct has been a bad month. Haven't been following= their trade signal at all since Oct. Well I guess its only my 1 month into t= he service. I must admit Oct is a really hard month to trade. Will monitor t= he signals to give another review again. Bad or good is too early to say yet= . Everyone has their s****y days too. >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Klein wrote: >> Dear Admin, >>=20 >> Frankly to say that we are really disappointed with the signal service pe= rformance. After we have subscribe the service via FPA promotion, we learnt t= hat this signal service could not >> commit as if the advertised performance (few hundreds pips profit) within= this 3 months. >>=20 >> Oppositely it has caused us loss of hundreds pips within these months sin= ce we followed this service very closely. Eventually it triggered much anger= and complaints from our portfolio investors just because we trusted on your= service. I think you should be aware of the performance of this signal serv= ice and also received a lot of complaints about your service. I also can see= numerous negative comment and a lot of people gave up on this service as we= ll through number of participants in skype and FB. >>=20 >> However, we never lodged complaint over over it and never ever post any n= egative comment about your service on FPA or other website. We understood th= at we should bear the loss and any responsibility since we trusted on your s= ervice. Furthermore, these 3 months market performed very tough and understo= od this treated your service not really fair enough if we claimed that your p= erformance is poor. >>=20 >> We also understood that it is not a good idea if we request for refund. T= o be fair to us, we would like to request for 3-month complimentary service s= o that at least our investors were compensated and get convinced. I believe i= f the performance is profitable within these 2 months, we would definately b= e happy to continue subscribe this service and maintain it. We are also look= ing for long term relationship with your company. >>=20 >> Appreciate if you could advise us and looking forward to your prompt repl= y. >>=20 >> Thank you. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Klein >>=20 >> On 10 Jan, 2013, at 9:40 AM, 4x Pips wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi all >>>=20 >>> I have had a number of emails from people asking about why they were rec= eiving signals last week and others asking why they stopped so suddenly this= week so I will try and explain. We ran an FPA promotion from 25th Sept to 3= 0th Sept 2012 and all of the people on 3 months subscriptions had their subs= criptions ending Christmas week leading into new year. We use a delivery sys= tem called amember which breaks our clients into ALL, CURRENT, EXPIRED, POTE= NTIAL based on their subscription status so from Christmas week to make thin= gs easier we sent signals to ALL so basically anybody who ever received sign= als from us since Sept (when we implemented the amember system) received ema= ils again. We continued this until Monday this week. So for people who joine= d 25th Sept on 3 months pckage they got arppox 2 weeks free and people who j= oined 30th got approx 1 weeks free.=20 >>>=20 >>> Unfortunately we had a number of people who emailed complaining that the= y were receiving emails again and were worried we would start re-charging th= em for this so we had to take the decision to stop the free signals on Monda= y as we had at minimum given 1 week free as we promised. >>>=20 >>> Also, some people have emailed saying they wanted to continue and we are= not sending signals, this is because PAYPAL cancelled all our autopayments i= n November so anybody who paid via payal in Sept FPA offer and wish to conti= nue can now go to www.profitfromtrading.co.uk and pay direct by Paypal. The p= rices have all been cut by approx 20% and if you choose the $159 3 month pac= kage the total discount is greater so this will still meet your FPA 20% disc= ount rate >>>=20 >>> I hope this clarifies things and I am sorry we could not have given the p= eople who only got 1 week free another free week but as you see it is diffic= ult >>>=20 >>> If anybody has any problems and feel they did not get the free week or w= eeks they were promised then please let us know immediatley so we can correc= t it. =20 >>>=20 >>> Thanks for your help >>>=20 >>> 4x pips >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> To unsubscribe from our periodic e-mail messages, please click the follo= wing link=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-2FE4E565-446F-4423-8338-6F6F382A8116 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Dear Admin,

=
Noted with thanks. However, we are worried this month may not be a= ble to meet our breakeven for the loss of these 3 months. Actually we had= lost more than 500 pips within these 3 months due to your signal and i beli= eve your clients and you should have encountered the same result with us.

Nevermind, we just look forward on your signal= performance first and wish all of us have a impressive profitable month.

May i know when does this complimentary start? Please= advise me soonest.

Anyway, thanks for your complim= entary month.

Regards,
Klein

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Jan, 2013, at 3:48 AM, 4x Pips <= ;admin@4xpips.net> wrote:

=
Hi

Ok lets re-add you= for 1 month initally and go from there

Thanks

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Klein <helix_siewkong@yah= oo.com> wrote:
This is not my p= ost. Im from singapore and my FPA account is klein880611. And my real full n= ame is Tang Siew Kong instead of S.K Tan. Please check it out. I swear i nev= er write any offensive review.

Oppositely please check your history in Skype, i remembe= r i did write something very supportive and defensive message to your servic= e. However, i was replied with some scolding words by your group members.

Please check on your side.

Than= ks.

Regards,
Klein

Sent from my iP= hone

On 10 Jan, 2013, at 4:02 PM, 4x Pi= ps <admin@4xpips.ne= t> wrote:

Hi

Is this  y= our FPA review?  Thanks

S.K Tan, , Singapore

Rating:3D""3D""3D""
Date of Post:2012-10-27
Review: Basically Oct has been a bad month. Haven't been following their trade signa= l at all since Oct. Well I guess its only my 1 month into the service. I mus= t admit Oct is a really hard month to trade. Will monitor the signals to giv= e another review again. Bad or good is too early to say yet. Everyone has th= eir s****y days too.


On Thu, Jan 10= , 2013 at 7:57 AM, Klein <helix_siewkong@yahoo.com> wro= te:
<= div>Dear Admin,

Frankly to say that we are really d= isappointed with the signal service performance. After we have subscribe the= service via FPA promotion, we learnt that this signal service could not
commit as if the advertised performance (few hundreds pips profit) with= in this 3 months.

Oppositely it has caused us loss o= f hundreds pips within these months since we followed this service very clos= ely. Eventually it triggered much anger and complaints from our portfolio in= vestors just because we trusted on your service. I think you should be aware= of the performance of this signal service and also received a lot of compla= ints about your service. I also can see numerous negative comment and a lot o= f people gave up on this service as well through number of participants in s= kype and FB.

However, we never lodged complaint over over it and neve= r ever post any negative comment about your service on FPA or other website.= We understood that we should bear the loss and any responsibility since we t= rusted on your service. Furthermore, these 3 months market performed very to= ugh and understood this treated your service not really fair enough if we cl= aimed that your performance is poor.

We also understood that it is not a good idea if we requ= est for refund. To be fair to us, we would like to request for 3-month compl= imentary service so that at least our investors were compensated and get con= vinced. I believe if the performance is profitable within these 2 months, we= would definately be happy to continue subscribe this service and maintain i= t. We are also looking for long term relationship with your company.

Appreciate if you could advise us and looking forward to= your prompt reply.

Thank you.

Regards,=
Klein

On 10 Jan, 2013, at 9:40 AM, 4x Pips &l= t;admin@4xpips.net= > wrote:

Hi all

I have had a number of emails from people asking about why they wer= e receiving signals last week and others asking why they stopped so suddenly= this week so I will try and explain. We ran an FPA promotion from 25th Sept= to 30th Sept 2012 and all of the people on 3 months subscriptions had their= subscriptions ending Christmas week leading into new year. We use a deliver= y system called amember which breaks our clients into ALL, CURRENT, EXPIRED,= POTENTIAL based on their subscription status so from Christmas week to make= things easier we sent signals to ALL so basically anybody who ever received= signals from us since Sept (when we implemented the amember system) receive= d emails again. We continued this until Monday this week. So for people who j= oined 25th Sept on 3 months pckage they got arppox 2 weeks free and people w= ho joined 30th got approx 1 weeks free. 

Unfortunately we had a number of people who emailed complaining tha= t they were receiving emails again and were worried we would start re-chargi= ng them for this so we had to take the decision to stop the free signals on M= onday as we had at minimum given 1 week free as we promised.

Also, some people have emailed saying they wanted to continue and w= e are not sending signals, this is because PAYPAL cancelled all our autopaym= ents in November so anybody who paid via payal in Sept FPA offer and wish to= continue can now go to www.profitfromtrading.co.uk and pay direct by Paypal. The p= rices have all been cut by approx 20% and if you choose the $159 3 month pac= kage the total discount is greater so this will still meet your FPA 20% disc= ount rate

I hope this clarifies things and I am sorry we could not have given= the people who only got 1 week free another free week but as you see it is d= ifficult

If anybody has any problems and feel they did not get the free week= or weeks they were promised then please let us know immediatley so we can c= orrect it.  

Thanks for your help

4x pips


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