Return-path: Envelope-to: admin@4xpips.net Delivery-date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 12:37:53 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com ([209.85.212.180]:38912) by host.silverbacklabs.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U38wS-0007nk-Et for admin@4xpips.net; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 12:37:52 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hi8so1872306wib.1 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:37:49 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language :x-antivirus:x-antivirus-status:x-gm-message-state; bh=w/iRZRNoMVgTHr58PueJsWQuuYV6BtY9cNABaOmTruc=; b=SlXo0whezPyr813JoXBNYRCXw2Ktvd0PXdxMSn96KJNccNzJmpP4uQMQ8/BUmCMeQ7 5MwVZnVcYkl8CjA4nxhA++w/koCcQ7I4vurfcoAyw91TFhCLyzDPZFt63iMOTYiFSy2t zdxGe2JrllFLODTjNwpTlrf1e2HxOSZqCfCQ8M/Al2kZ5yVNKHa5VLUrfa9S+KrPiZJk YjHqw3R4jDmfW2qvQko5Po1CPo9H4aw3nuwE6LCQ+J7APh7WrtBndueliOrYrYTwrVCw a72bHahuw4LF8oazcviW39on9ORhB7Cgsu9I8HZrKpvPIfVPdNYXmF6wGzVqHDKwEDqB Kkmw== X-Received: by 10.194.76.137 with SMTP id k9mr51497957wjw.29.1360172269008; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:37:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from GrahamPC (5ac5ad7b.bb.sky.com. [90.197.173.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q13sm4468450wie.0.2013.02.06.09.37.47 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:37:48 -0800 (PST) From: "Cash Master" To: "'4x Pips'" References: <6ca841cc9237689a092c20df349a47e1@www.4xpips.net> <000f01cdfaf7$87292860$957b7920$@com> <009d01cdfd4c$8c5a91a0$a50fb4e0$@com> <006701cdfe11$47237e60$d56a7b20$@com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Contact Form Submission from Graham Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 17:37:44 -0000 Message-ID: <010c01ce0490$acc13cf0$0643b6d0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010D_01CE0490.ACC13CF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac3/WYHkuAvxeikyTv2CSxXPo02llgFNvOtg Content-Language: en-gb X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130206-0, 06/02/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnUwcPgD7w/cXJM3KXuH2svdH+UlKsOEaSAHEhha4xf3RYj8DoL2SkEvRcU7SmPOLY40yk8 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_010D_01CE0490.ACC13CF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok that's fine then. Please add my reviewer, Art, to the membership and he'll run a review of the service. You should see members signing up during the review but then a big push following publication of his final review. Arts e-mail address is: arthur_ockwell@hotmail.com Let me know Thanks Graham From: silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 4x Pips Sent: 31 January 2013 02:20 To: Cash Master Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from Graham Hi Graham, I discussed it with the other partners and they all agree to keep to commission structure at the current one of 75%/30%. So sorry about that one. Let me know if there is anything else. Thanks, Kilion On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Cash Master wrote: Hi Kilion, That's good. Thanks. The only other issue I have is the 30% on recurring subscriptions. I'd be happier if it were a flat 50% throughout, even on the initial payment. This makes it a more attractive proposition and therefore would warrant more 'exposure' to my list. You'll find this with other affiliates too. Would you consider revising it. 50% of a big pie would be worth more to you than 70% of a smaller pie. Let me know Thanks Graham From: silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 4x Pips Sent: 29 January 2013 04:38 To: Cash Master Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from Graham Hi Graham, Thanks for the feedback. This is the first time we have used Clickbank and we are taking your concerns seriously. I have completely removed PayPal and details of other payment methods from the subscribe page. It will now stay that way. We want to build some good partnerships with affiliates and I believe you are right about what you said. The benefit of PayPal is that we can use coupon codes when we want to give a discount to our list.. unfortunately Clickbank don't offer that flexibility. Anyway, I hope you realise that we are responsive to our affiliates and willing to take on any other suggestions you have. Many thanks, Kilion On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Cash Master wrote: I've tested my link and it still goes to the main site. http://cashmast.4expips.hop.clickbank.net If you want me as an affiliate (or any other serious affiliates) you can only have permanent affiliate payment options, you can't offer it on a 14 day basis. This is because most affiliates, myself included, bring in evergreen sales (all year round, not just one off promotions). You clearly are not experienced working with affiliates so I'll give it a miss. Cheers Graham From: silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 4x Pips Sent: 27 January 2013 16:36 To: Cash Master Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from Graham Hi Graham, You are right that is an issue... sorry. I have created a new sign-up page that only has clickbank that you can send to your list (http://www.4xpips.net/secure/signup/index/c/T7Lwh8hwy). Alternatively I can remove all other payment options for 7 to 14 days from when you send out an email to your list - so their only option is CB. We have some clients (from africa) who are not allowed access to PayPal or ClickBank so for them we have set up other options - MoneyBookers, Liberty Reserve and Western Union... but again I can remove this info for you for a set period of time. I am considering completely removing PP from the site altogether as we have had trouble with them before and to be honest would like to keep auto payments away from them. If we can gain a few good affiliates then that is an easy choice to make. I think removing the other payment options will be fairest for you. Let me know what you want to do and I will do the necessary. Best wishes, Kilion On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Cash Master wrote: Hi Kilion, Unfortunately you have set up your site so that affiliates can be bypassed. Customers can choose to pay by Paypal (or Moneybookers, Liberty Reserve et al.) which means I wouldn't get paid if anyone chose that option. Or rather I ONLY get paid if they choose Clickbank. This is NOT how you set up a site for affiliates. Thanks Graham From: silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of admin Sent: 23 January 2013 07:32 To: admin@cash-master.com Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from Graham Hi Graham, Are you still interested in working with us as an affiliate? Our affiliate program is now live and we are offering a generous residual commission to our partners. More information and instructions on our website at - http://www.4xpips.net/affiliates/ We now have myfxbooks 3rd party verification as well. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help you.. i.e. provide any other info. Best wishes, Kilion 4x Pips ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Graham Date: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:37 PM Subject: Contact Form Submission from Graham To: support@4xpips.net Name: Graham Email: admin@cash-master.com Comments: Please contact me when you are ready for affiliates. I have a very responsive list. Thanks Graham ------=_NextPart_000_010D_01CE0490.ACC13CF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ok that’s fine then.

 

Please add my reviewer, Art, to the membership and he’ll run a = review of the service. You should see members signing up during the = review but then a big push following publication of his final = review.

 

Arts e-mail address is: arthur_ockwell@hotmail.com=

 

Let me know

 

Thanks

 

Graham

 

From:= = silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf = Of 4x Pips
Sent: 31 January 2013 02:20
To: Cash = Master
Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from = Graham

 

Hi = Graham,

 

I = discussed it with the other partners and they all agree to keep = to commission structure at the current one of 75%/30%. So = sorry about that one. Let me know if there is anything = else.

 

Thanks,

Kilion

 

 

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Cash Master <admin@cash-master.com> = wrote:

Hi Kilion,

 

That’s good. Thanks.

 

The only other issue I have is the 30% on recurring subscriptions. = I’d be happier if it were a flat 50% throughout, even on the = initial payment. This makes it a more attractive proposition and = therefore would warrant more ‘exposure’ to my list. = You’ll find this with other affiliates = too.

 

Would you consider revising it. 50% of a big pie would be worth more = to you than 70% of a smaller pie.

 

Let me know

 

Thanks

 

Graham

 

From:= silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 4x = Pips
Sent: 29 January 2013 = 04:38


To: = Cash Master
Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from = Graham

 <= /o:p>

Hi = Graham,

 <= /o:p>

Thanks for = the feedback. This is the first time we have used Clickbank and we are = taking your concerns seriously. I have completely removed PayPal = and details of other payment methods from the subscribe page. It will = now stay that way. We want to build some good partnerships with = affiliates and I believe you are right about what you = said.

 <= /o:p>

The benefit = of PayPal is that we can use coupon codes when we want to give a = discount to our list.. unfortunately Clickbank don't offer that = flexibility.

 <= /o:p>

Anyway, I = hope you realise that we are responsive to our affiliates and = willing to take on any other suggestions you = have.

 <= /o:p>

Many = thanks,

Kilion<= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /p>

On Mon, Jan = 28, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Cash Master <admin@cash-master.com> = wrote:

I’ve tested my link and it still goes to the main = site.

 

http://cashmast.4expips.hop.clickbank.net

 

If you want me as an affiliate (or any other serious affiliates) you = can only have permanent affiliate payment options, you can’t offer = it on a 14 day basis. This is because most affiliates, myself included, = bring in evergreen sales (all year round,  not just one off = promotions).

 

You clearly are not experienced working with affiliates so I’ll = give it  a miss.

 

Cheers

 

Graham

 

From:= silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 4x = Pips
Sent: 27 January 2013 16:36
To: Cash = Master


Subje= ct: Re: Contact Form Submission from = Graham

 <= /o:p>

Hi = Graham,

 <= /o:p>

 <= /p>

On Fri, Jan = 25, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Cash Master <admin@cash-master.com> = wrote:

Hi Kilion,

 

Unfortunately you have set up your site so that affiliates can be = bypassed.

 

Customers can choose to pay by Paypal (or Moneybookers, Liberty = Reserve et al.) which means I wouldn’t get paid if anyone chose = that option. Or rather I ONLY get paid if they choose = Clickbank.

 

This is NOT how you set up a site for = affiliates.

 

Thanks

 

Graham

 

From:= silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of = admin
Sent: 23 January 2013 07:32
To: admin@cash-master.com
Subject: Re: = Contact Form Submission from Graham

 <= /o:p>

Hi = Graham,

 <= /o:p>

Are you = still interested in working with us as an = affiliate?

 <= /o:p>

Our = affiliate program is now live and we are offering a generous = residual commission to our partners. More information and = instructions on our website at - http://www.4xpips.net/affiliates/ <= /p>

 <= /o:p>

We now have = myfxbooks 3rd party verification as well. Let me know if there is = anything I can do to help you.. i.e. provide any other = info. 

 <= /o:p>

Best = wishes,

Kilion<= /o:p>

4x = Pips

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

---------- = Forwarded message ----------
From: Graham <admin@cash-master.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 2, = 2012 at 5:37 PM
Subject: Contact Form Submission from Graham
To: = support@4xpips.net


Name: = Graham

Email: admin@cash-master.com

Comments: Please = contact me when you are ready for affiliates. I have a very responsive = list.

Thanks

Graham

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 

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