Return-path: Envelope-to: admin@4xpips.net Delivery-date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 07:33:15 -0500 Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:59694) by host.silverbacklabs.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U3QfB-0002YD-Qu for admin@4xpips.net; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 07:33:14 -0500 Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id 15so1943000wgd.28 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:33:10 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language :x-antivirus:x-antivirus-status:x-gm-message-state; bh=7gIgQdoQ7xSdb3Brfgco8X7dKbtcVLhP6XZhpob6u0M=; b=lVO2bdr/IUql90UClX0TwatAxIqt8h8KCv0zgJPDVW6f2XuA5GZWubBRasXGK/83gC bh5CUqSH+BD3Ru+t2lSiPizJIchvCLbggSHZUoUdkipCLwJf2Iw7Xy1e4cPDctn+dfZj 6VUI60rfgjttxR/nAVGEHPZvEV7CsJxWCkmyWqpQ1tso3nGcuf0vPmL2qvEO+FetoQPg jtLKhUMsGc8KkxD1T0BzFVgRiuIiLDm24dNhY66XSMhzJDywdKO17BYsvKw3uCcA071c A+hlcPYCrmZAfKR89ktoeeSv3jKiw4v1Ct4RPMiUvBHXr1HHIBWyfl22ESbGBH3fpO1r 1KnQ== X-Received: by 10.194.238.226 with SMTP id vn2mr2390916wjc.23.1360240387315; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:33:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from GrahamPC (5ac5ad7b.bb.sky.com. [90.197.173.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id be1sm9099162wib.10.2013.02.07.04.33.05 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:33:06 -0800 (PST) From: "Cash Master" To: "'4x Pips'" References: <6ca841cc9237689a092c20df349a47e1@www.4xpips.net> <000f01cdfaf7$87292860$957b7920$@com> <009d01cdfd4c$8c5a91a0$a50fb4e0$@com> <006701cdfe11$47237e60$d56a7b20$@com> <010c01ce0490$acc13cf0$0643b6d0$@com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Contact Form Submission from Graham Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 12:33:02 -0000 Message-ID: <009101ce052f$46118c40$d234a4c0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0092_01CE052F.46118C40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac4FBq4mT1q1ACaBRriZ5MekPapzSAAKIT0g Content-Language: en-gb X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130207-0, 07/02/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkPuncHSKei/hKayg0smBxBKqpKIu0RKDG9dBibCSLxorfQrp+xyan1IvgqUrA3aLENGRQ1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01CE052F.46118C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Kilion, OK he's done that using username: HiArt99 Thanks Graham From: silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 4x Pips Sent: 07 February 2013 07:42 To: Cash Master Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from Graham Hi Graham, Please ask Art to sign up using the form on our website ...but then to not complete the payment part. Email me when he has done that.. I will then go in and manually activate his account and he will receive the welcome email and signals. Thanks, Kilion On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Cash Master wrote: Ok that's fine then. Please add my reviewer, Art, to the membership and he'll run a review of the service. You should see members signing up during the review but then a big push following publication of his final review. Arts e-mail address is: arthur_ockwell@hotmail.com Let me know Thanks Graham From: silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 4x Pips Sent: 31 January 2013 02:20 To: Cash Master Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from Graham Hi Graham, I discussed it with the other partners and they all agree to keep to commission structure at the current one of 75%/30%. So sorry about that one. Let me know if there is anything else. Thanks, Kilion On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Cash Master wrote: Hi Kilion, That's good. Thanks. The only other issue I have is the 30% on recurring subscriptions. I'd be happier if it were a flat 50% throughout, even on the initial payment. This makes it a more attractive proposition and therefore would warrant more 'exposure' to my list. You'll find this with other affiliates too. Would you consider revising it. 50% of a big pie would be worth more to you than 70% of a smaller pie. Let me know Thanks Graham From: silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 4x Pips Sent: 29 January 2013 04:38 To: Cash Master Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from Graham Hi Graham, Thanks for the feedback. This is the first time we have used Clickbank and we are taking your concerns seriously. I have completely removed PayPal and details of other payment methods from the subscribe page. It will now stay that way. We want to build some good partnerships with affiliates and I believe you are right about what you said. The benefit of PayPal is that we can use coupon codes when we want to give a discount to our list.. unfortunately Clickbank don't offer that flexibility. Anyway, I hope you realise that we are responsive to our affiliates and willing to take on any other suggestions you have. Many thanks, Kilion On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Cash Master wrote: I've tested my link and it still goes to the main site. http://cashmast.4expips.hop.clickbank.net If you want me as an affiliate (or any other serious affiliates) you can only have permanent affiliate payment options, you can't offer it on a 14 day basis. This is because most affiliates, myself included, bring in evergreen sales (all year round, not just one off promotions). You clearly are not experienced working with affiliates so I'll give it a miss. Cheers Graham From: silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 4x Pips Sent: 27 January 2013 16:36 To: Cash Master Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from Graham Hi Graham, You are right that is an issue... sorry. I have created a new sign-up page that only has clickbank that you can send to your list (http://www.4xpips.net/secure/signup/index/c/T7Lwh8hwy). Alternatively I can remove all other payment options for 7 to 14 days from when you send out an email to your list - so their only option is CB. We have some clients (from africa) who are not allowed access to PayPal or ClickBank so for them we have set up other options - MoneyBookers, Liberty Reserve and Western Union... but again I can remove this info for you for a set period of time. I am considering completely removing PP from the site altogether as we have had trouble with them before and to be honest would like to keep auto payments away from them. If we can gain a few good affiliates then that is an easy choice to make. I think removing the other payment options will be fairest for you. Let me know what you want to do and I will do the necessary. Best wishes, Kilion On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Cash Master wrote: Hi Kilion, Unfortunately you have set up your site so that affiliates can be bypassed. Customers can choose to pay by Paypal (or Moneybookers, Liberty Reserve et al.) which means I wouldn't get paid if anyone chose that option. Or rather I ONLY get paid if they choose Clickbank. This is NOT how you set up a site for affiliates. Thanks Graham From: silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of admin Sent: 23 January 2013 07:32 To: admin@cash-master.com Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from Graham Hi Graham, Are you still interested in working with us as an affiliate? Our affiliate program is now live and we are offering a generous residual commission to our partners. More information and instructions on our website at - http://www.4xpips.net/affiliates/ We now have myfxbooks 3rd party verification as well. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help you.. i.e. provide any other info. Best wishes, Kilion 4x Pips ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Graham Date: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:37 PM Subject: Contact Form Submission from Graham To: support@4xpips.net Name: Graham Email: admin@cash-master.com Comments: Please contact me when you are ready for affiliates. I have a very responsive list. Thanks Graham ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01CE052F.46118C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Kilion,

 

OK he’s done that using username: = HiArt99

 

Thanks

 

Graham

 

From:= = silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf = Of 4x Pips
Sent: 07 February 2013 07:42
To: Cash = Master
Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from = Graham

 

Hi = Graham,

 

Please ask Art to sign up using the form on our = website ...but then to not complete the payment part. Email me when he = has done that.. I will then go in and manually activate his account and = he will receive the welcome email and = signals.

 

Thanks,

Kilion

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Cash Master <admin@cash-master.com> = wrote:

Ok that’s fine then.

 

Please add my reviewer, Art, to the membership and he’ll run a = review of the service. You should see members signing up during the = review but then a big push following publication of his final = review.

 

Arts e-mail address is: arthur_ockwell@hotmail.com

 

Let me know

 

Thanks

 

Graham

 

From:= silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 4x = Pips
Sent: 31 January 2013 = 02:20


To: = Cash Master
Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from = Graham

 <= /o:p>

Hi = Graham,

 <= /o:p>

I discussed = it with the other partners and they all agree to keep = to commission structure at the current one of 75%/30%. So = sorry about that one. Let me know if there is anything = else.

 <= /o:p>

Thanks,=

Kilion<= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /p>

On Tue, Jan = 29, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Cash Master <admin@cash-master.com> = wrote:

Hi Kilion,

 

That’s good. Thanks.

 

The only other issue I have is the 30% on recurring subscriptions. = I’d be happier if it were a flat 50% throughout, even on the = initial payment. This makes it a more attractive proposition and = therefore would warrant more ‘exposure’ to my list. = You’ll find this with other affiliates = too.

 

Would you consider revising it. 50% of a big pie would be worth more = to you than 70% of a smaller pie.

 

Let me know

 

Thanks

 

Graham

 

From:= silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 4x = Pips
Sent: 29 January 2013 = 04:38


To: Cash Master
Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from = Graham

 <= /o:p>

Hi = Graham,

 <= /o:p>

Thanks for = the feedback. This is the first time we have used Clickbank and we are = taking your concerns seriously. I have completely removed PayPal = and details of other payment methods from the subscribe page. It will = now stay that way. We want to build some good partnerships with = affiliates and I believe you are right about what you = said.

 <= /o:p>

The benefit = of PayPal is that we can use coupon codes when we want to give a = discount to our list.. unfortunately Clickbank don't offer that = flexibility.

 <= /o:p>

Anyway, I = hope you realise that we are responsive to our affiliates and = willing to take on any other suggestions you = have.

 <= /o:p>

Many = thanks,

Kilion<= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /p>

On Mon, Jan = 28, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Cash Master <admin@cash-master.com> = wrote:

I’ve tested my link and it still goes to the main = site.

 

http://cashmast.4expips.hop.clickbank.net

 

If you want me as an affiliate (or any other serious affiliates) you = can only have permanent affiliate payment options, you can’t offer = it on a 14 day basis. This is because most affiliates, myself included, = bring in evergreen sales (all year round,  not just one off = promotions).

 

You clearly are not experienced working with affiliates so I’ll = give it  a miss.

 

Cheers

 

Graham

 

From:= silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 4x = Pips
Sent: 27 January 2013 16:36
To: Cash = Master


Subje= ct: Re: Contact Form Submission from = Graham

 <= /o:p>

Hi = Graham,

 <= /o:p>

 <= /p>

On Fri, Jan = 25, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Cash Master <admin@cash-master.com> = wrote:

Hi Kilion,

 

Unfortunately you have set up your site so that affiliates can be = bypassed.

 

Customers can choose to pay by Paypal (or Moneybookers, Liberty = Reserve et al.) which means I wouldn’t get paid if anyone chose = that option. Or rather I ONLY get paid if they choose = Clickbank.

 

This is NOT how you set up a site for = affiliates.

 

Thanks

 

Graham

 

From:= silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of = admin
Sent: 23 January 2013 07:32
To: admin@cash-master.com
Subject: Re: = Contact Form Submission from Graham

 <= /o:p>

Hi = Graham,

 <= /o:p>

Are you = still interested in working with us as an = affiliate?

 <= /o:p>

Our = affiliate program is now live and we are offering a generous = residual commission to our partners. More information and = instructions on our website at - http://www.4xpips.net/affiliates/ <= /p>

 <= /o:p>

We now have = myfxbooks 3rd party verification as well. Let me know if there is = anything I can do to help you.. i.e. provide any other = info. 

 <= /o:p>

Best = wishes,

Kilion<= /o:p>

4x = Pips

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

---------- = Forwarded message ----------
From: Graham <admin@cash-master.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 2, = 2012 at 5:37 PM
Subject: Contact Form Submission from Graham
To: = support@4xpips.net


Name: = Graham

Email: admin@cash-master.com

Comments: Please = contact me when you are ready for affiliates. I have a very responsive = list.

Thanks

Graham

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 

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