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From: ANDREW WALLACE <aewclerking@virginmedia.com>
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Hi,
After one week using the service I am really pleased. I am not a novice
trader but because of time constraints recently I have not been able to do
my own analysis so I decided to give your service a try having read good
reviews in the FPA.
The way I trade is to wait for the market to move in the suggested
direction before entering a few pips don't matter too much. Again because
of time I use an ea to monitor my trades. Strict money management and there
is no way I will a trade go to +30 and then get stopped out for a loss. I
would rather close for a small profit and look to re-enter.

regards

Andrew

On 17 October 2012 07:29, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wrote:

> Signals
>
>
>  Hi all,
>
>  Some people have been asking me questions about the service and the poor
> performance in the last few weeks and I wanted to answer a few of them
>
>  1. Expected profit of 1000+ Pips a month
>  This is our expected profit based over the past 12-18 months profit we
> achieved. It is only an expected value and as people know you cannot
> guarantee any pips in forex but we do find we generally provide this profit
> over the month and in 16 of the last 18 months we have provided more than
> the 1000+ Pips. Chatting in the skype group yesterday one trader said he
> has had 11 consecutive winning months with this month his one losing one
> (using his own system) so it isa volatile and strange market at the moment.
> Yesterday for example, EURUSD went up +200 Pips for 2 reason...1) a rumour
> about Germany helping Spain which later turned out to be false and
> misrepresented and 2) Moodys NOT downgrading Spain.....so a 200+ Pips move
> because of these 2 reasons is mad to be honest. Personally I use another
> signal company who is very good one for mainly commodities and they claim
> 2000 - 3000 Pips every month and their service has been poor the last few
> weeks too. So I am not making excuses as I agree things have been poor but
> it seems to be a recurring theme at the moment.
>
>  2. We do not report true results
>  This is always a problem area. Some mad signal companies (and I have used
> them) will report the profit as the max profit it hit during the trade so
> if a signal spiked up 40pips and straight down in seconds and hit SL then
> they would report +40 Pips which is total rubbish. We report what we
> provide as a signal and advice but as we finish at 4PM London time and we
> have traders from all over the world then people will achieve different
> pips. Yesterday some traders told me they made +30 Pips on EURAUD while
> some people who were sleeping while the signal was at +30 Pips would not
> have made any profit and would have made 0 Pips. (we will report this as 0
> Pips anyway in our weekly report). But if after 4PM a signal went within
> 1-2 pips of hitting a TP and then reversed and hit our entry I would expect
> a large number of people to have made a good profit from it and would
> report this as a range based on lowest to highest. We also have access to
> some clients accounts and we use these as reference to see what profit
> people achieved. These 5 people are based around the world and gives us a
> good snapshot of the signals. I know some people won't agree with this but
> this we find is the best reflection of the service and the profit available
>
>  3. People claiming to blow their accounts
>  I have had 1 person claim he has lost all his account following our
> signals over the past 4 weeks. As we had pretty much a breakeven week last
> week based on % and average about 10 signals a week then that would mean he
> has blown his account in 30 trades of which about 6-8 hit SL and rest were
> SL AT ENTRY or PROFIT. So although it is possible he has, he must be
> risking 20-30% per trade but please please use good money management. I
> have added the money management guide again for people. Its not a perfect
> guide but it gives a guide to what you should be trading per signals, don't
> trade the same lot size per signal as our GOLD signal can have up to
> 200pips SL while an USDJPY can have only 30 Pips SL, adjust accordingly.
> Its really frustrating when somebody says "oh that was a big loser", it
> should be a 2% loser (some people may trade higher with 3 or 4% though).
>
>  4. People claiming almost all our signal hit SL recently
>  It came to my attention yesterday that some people are getting mixed up
> with HIT SL & HIT SL AT ENTRY. If a signal hits SL then its a loser, if it
> hits SL AT ENTRY then its a breakeven trade as we have moved our SL to
> entry so no loss can occur. Please keep an eye on our updates as we tend to
> move SL TO ENTRY after about 25-30Pips to avoid any loss
>
>  5 Not posting signals on  Facebook etc
>  Unfortunately there is the very very odd occasion where a signal did not
> go out on FB but we all know FB can crash sometimes and I click post and
> move on to something else and then see it did not post and refresh and
> nothing happens but this is the very odd occasion and should not be a
> problem
>
>  6. The Free week
>  People are not being autobilled by PP so are getting a free week and this
> will also continue for everyone else so I hope this covers the lack of
> service last week
>
>  7. GOLD SERVICE
>  As the service is just 1 email a day and no updates are sent then please
> manage the signals yourself. We do use larger SL & TP but as you can see
> the market is very volatile at the moment and trades are going into profit
> and swinging into loss so move SL TO ENTRY after about 30 Pips if possible
> and close when you like.
>
>  8. Skype group
>  Please keep the skype chat upbeat and if you have a problem speak to
> Admin direct when he is online (sometimes he may appear offline but just
> message him and he should come online during London trading hours). I have
> noticed 1-2 people getting frustrated with the signals and their own
> trading which I totally agree with but please don't take it out on fellow
> people in the group. The skype rules are in the welcome emails you received.
>
>  I hope this clears up most things. If you have any questions then please
> let me know and thanks everybody for their patience and hopefully in coming
> days and weeks we will make some good pips
>
>  Thanks
>
> --
> 4X PIPS TEAM
> www.profitfromtrading.co.uk
>
>
>
>
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<div>Hi,</div><div>After one week using the service I am really pleased. I =
am not a novice trader but because of time constraints recently I have not =
been able to do my own analysis so I decided to give your service a try hav=
ing read good reviews in the FPA.</div>
<div>The way I trade is to wait for the market to move in the suggested dir=
ection before entering a few pips don&#39;t matter too much. Again because =
of time I use an ea to monitor my trades. Strict money management and there=
 is no way I will a trade go to +30 and then get stopped out for a loss. I =
would rather close for a small profit and look to re-enter.</div>
<div>=A0</div><div>regards</div><div>=A0</div><div>Andrew<br><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">On 17 October 2012 07:29, 4x Pips <span dir=3D"ltr">=
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:admin@4xpips.net" target=3D"_blank">admin@4xpips.net<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><p>
	<span style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">Signals</span></p>
<br style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_quote">
	<div>
		=A0</div>
	<div>
		Hi all,</div>
	<div>
		=A0</div>
	<div>
		Some people have been asking me questions about the service and the poor =
performance in the last few weeks and I wanted to answer a few of them</div=
>
	<div>
		=A0</div>
	<div>
		1. Expected profit of 1000+ Pips a month</div>
	<div>
		This is our expected profit based over the past 12-18 months profit we ac=
hieved. It is only an expected value and as people know you cannot guarante=
e any pips in forex but we do find we generally provide this profit over th=
e month and in 16 of the last 18 months we have provided more than the 1000=
+ Pips. Chatting in the skype group yesterday one trader said he has had 11=
 consecutive winning months with this month his one losing one (using his o=
wn system) so it isa volatile and strange market at the moment. Yesterday f=
or example, EURUSD went up +200 Pips for 2 reason...1) a rumour about Germa=
ny helping Spain which later turned out to be false and misrepresented and =
2) Moodys NOT downgrading Spain.....so a 200+ Pips move because of these 2 =
reasons is mad to be honest. Personally I use another signal company who is=
 very good one for mainly commodities and they claim 2000 - 3000 Pips every=
 month and their service has been poor the last few weeks too. So I am not =
making excuses as I agree things have been poor but it seems to be a recurr=
ing theme at the moment.</div>

<div>
		=A0</div>
	<div>
		2. We do not report true results</div>
	<div>
		This is always a problem area. Some mad signal companies (and I have used=
 them) will report the profit as the max profit it hit during the trade so =
if a signal spiked up 40pips and straight down in seconds and hit SL then t=
hey would report +40 Pips which is total rubbish. We report what we provide=
 as a signal and advice but as we finish at 4PM London time and we have tra=
ders from all over the world then people will achieve different pips. Yeste=
rday some traders told me they made +30 Pips on EURAUD while some people wh=
o were sleeping while the signal was at +30 Pips would not have made any pr=
ofit and would have made 0 Pips. (we will report this as 0 Pips anyway in o=
ur weekly report). But if after 4PM a signal went within 1-2 pips of hittin=
g a TP and then reversed and hit our entry I would expect a large number of=
 people to have made a good profit from it and would report this as a range=
 based on lowest to highest. We also have access to some clients accounts a=
nd we use these as reference to see what profit people achieved. These 5 pe=
ople are based around the world and gives us a good snapshot of the signals=
. I know some people won&#39;t agree with this but this we find is the best=
 reflection of the service and the profit available</div>

<div>
		=A0</div>
	<div>
		3. People claiming to blow their accounts</div>
	<div>
		I have had 1 person claim he has lost all his account following our signa=
ls over the past 4 weeks. As we had pretty much a breakeven week last week =
based on % and average about 10 signals a week then that would mean he has =
blown his account in 30 trades of which about 6-8 hit SL and rest were SL A=
T ENTRY or PROFIT. So although it is possible he has, he must be risking 20=
-30% per trade but please please use good money management. I have added th=
e money management guide again for people. Its not a perfect guide but it g=
ives a guide to what you should be trading per signals, don&#39;t trade the=
 same lot size per signal as our GOLD signal can have up to 200pips SL whil=
e an USDJPY can have only 30 Pips SL, adjust accordingly. Its really frustr=
ating when somebody says &quot;oh that was a big loser&quot;, it should be =
a 2% loser (some people may trade higher with 3 or 4% though).=A0</div>

<div>
		=A0</div>
	<div>
		4. People claiming almost all our signal hit SL recently</div>
	<div>
		It came to my attention yesterday that some people are getting mixed up w=
ith HIT SL &amp; HIT SL AT ENTRY. If a signal hits SL then its a loser, if =
it hits SL AT ENTRY then its a breakeven trade as we have moved our SL to e=
ntry so no loss can occur. Please keep an eye on our updates as we tend to =
move SL TO ENTRY after about 25-30Pips to avoid any loss</div>

<div>
		=A0</div>
	<div>
		5 Not posting signals on =A0Facebook etc</div>
	<div>
		Unfortunately there is the very very odd occasion where a signal did not =
go out on FB but we all know FB can crash sometimes and I click post and mo=
ve on to something else and then see it did not post and refresh and nothin=
g happens but this is the very odd occasion and should not be a problem</di=
v>

<div>
		=A0</div>
	<div>
		6. The Free week</div>
	<div>
		People are not being autobilled by PP so are getting a free week and this=
 will also continue for everyone else so I hope this covers the lack of ser=
vice last week</div>
	<div>
		=A0</div>
	<div>
		7. GOLD SERVICE</div>
	<div>
		As the service is just 1 email a day and no updates are sent then please =
manage the signals yourself. We do use larger SL &amp; TP but as you can se=
e the market is very volatile at the moment and trades are going into profi=
t and swinging into loss so move SL TO ENTRY after about 30 Pips if possibl=
e and close when you like.</div>

<div>
		=A0</div>
	<div>
		8. Skype group</div>
	<div>
		Please keep the skype chat upbeat and if you have a problem speak to Admi=
n direct when he is online (sometimes he may appear offline but just messag=
e him and he should come online during London trading hours). I have notice=
d 1-2 people getting frustrated with the signals and their own trading whic=
h I totally agree with but please don&#39;t take it out on fellow people in=
 the group. The skype rules are in the welcome emails you received.</div>

<div>
		=A0</div>
	<div>
		I hope this clears up most things. If you have any questions then please =
let me know and thanks everybody for their patience and hopefully in coming=
 days and weeks we will make some good pips</div>
	<div>
		=A0</div>
	<div>
		Thanks<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br clear=3D"all">
		<div>
			=A0</div>
		<span><font color=3D"#888888">--=A0<br>
		<font color=3D"#003300">4X PIPS TEAM</font></font></span>
		<div>
			<span><font color=3D"#888888"><font color=3D"#990000"><a href=3D"http://=
www.profitfromtrading.co.uk/" target=3D"_blank">www.profitfromtrading.co.uk=
</a></font></font></span></div>
		<div>
			=A0</div>
	</font></span></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
</font></span></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
<p>
	=A0</p>

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