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Return-path: <amilovic@gmail.com> Envelope-to: admin@4xpips.net Delivery-date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:56:38 -0400 Received: from mail-ia0-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]:61387) by host.silverbacklabs.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <amilovic@gmail.com>) id 1TS8kY-0005mY-Cc for admin@4xpips.net; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:56:38 -0400 Received: by mail-ia0-f172.google.com with SMTP id x24so1109744iak.31 for <admin@4xpips.net>; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:56:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=4krT0k3a7fuybzRFFxBuAayZPxEmatZ0ZVDNcCpvGBE=; b=RNmmwDTTa6a1orDuUwhiN6dLjukJG/DWYt1NUyQYRXY64wAVdFfAyXEWCSe7D4pVgt D8mL6E4ZK93NipePkbEJey08YIbzfqtA7DpzR0ZHCGGY6TNvlxDPyXclpve1z7gP7/kN NoBfE5wj8GO45ChZE/wjPqmzoCC8CKuXQVXV0g3d11Dz5qIjKBDzKE2hwAeeSien4rkc emZX/vesXb5gMahi8VXk5w2Jtp8SOShnCvVDMV8Dc3/GTX7NZgrqX3/qoedQrXyz7fxm i2DyHyMvzgryKJYyINEqvVdSNsWNVcStPTkz+bJcXEsrt/SYmZ8nsamXNrKK4BvzHJi6 tNxg== Received: by 10.50.169.35 with SMTP id ab3mr5173438igc.8.1351353396941; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:56:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.28.132 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:56:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <E1TS6CR-0003gy-VR@host.silverbacklabs.net> References: <E1TS6CR-0003gy-VR@host.silverbacklabs.net> From: Alex Milovic <amilovic@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 17:56:16 +0200 Message-ID: <CAJ7kwosezRZuwOSf9REwEYoydQ8z22mUgbD9ikn7OQSpXjmx_w@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: CHANGE TO SERVICE To: 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3bb01530d18104cd0c7be4 --e89a8f3bb01530d18104cd0c7be4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Martin, Since it has been less than 30 days since I paid for your signals, and as you agreed, the results have been not so outstanding. I would like to receive a chargeback on my payment. Thanks, Alex On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:13 PM, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wrote: > Hi all > > It is with great regret that I have decided to step aside at 4X Pips > after 4 fantastic years. Unfortunately the past 1-2 months the signals have > not been the best, even though the last week we are back to some profit, > and people who have recently joined have decided to target a lot of anger > and abuse directly at me. Recently I have had personal threats, had blatant > lies told about me, people posting untrue facts about me and my private > live and had people creating fake Facebook profiles to try and befriend me > on FB and check into my private and personal life. For everyone who knows > me through the group or knows me personally and knows the service for more > than 3 months they will know that I have always worked hard (16 hour days > sometimes) to give people a reliable, honest and fair signal service. Its > just unfortunate that we have had a losing few weeks after the FPA offer > and new website. > > Its also unfortunate that from the 100's of clients (and 1000's over the > past few years) that its only 4-5 people who made it personal against me > and decided to target me direct. So for that reason I am stepping aside as > it means someone else can step in and run the service better without this > level of abuse and personal attacks. > > So on that note, I have asked TCi who has been giving excellent pips over > the past 2 months in the skype group to take over. He will have access to > our other traders and it will be his decision whether to send the other > traders signals out or hold them or adjust them. He will be available in > the skype groups and you can ask for his help and support there. His > signals and updates will be sent out as usual by email, twitter, twitter > sms and facebook. In my opinion this will improve the signals and service > and lead to good pips and profits. I can honestly say if TCi was not > available then I would continue but I have known him for a long time now > and am so impressed with his signals and work that I am happy for him to > provide the signals for 4X Pips signals. All signals will still have entry, > stop loss and TP and will be similar to the signals we had this week with > smaller SL's which will be better. There will also be more major pairs such > as EU, GU, AU & UC. People will see no change to the service, you will > still get approx the same number of signals, sent the same way, TCi will be > admin of the skype group and email support will still be available from > other admins. I may join the skype group as a client in the coming weeks > and will be happy to chat to fellow clients when I do > > The admin side of things (such as questions about the service, any > problems you are having or subscriptions) will be dealt with by the other > admins in the company. Also 1 person will now deal with all emails as we > had some occurances where there was a number of us answering emails and > missing emails so now 1 person deals with them and they aim to answer all > emails within 24hrs but they will aim for much faster during the London > trading hours > > Let me say that this is not a negative for 4X Pips and I honestly believe > it will help improve the pips and service and there is still plans for the > 3rd party verification, autotrade and ipad/android apps and they will be > worked on by the other admins shortly. Please keep an eye on the website > for updates on the autotrade system especially. Of course some people will > view this negatively (the 4-5 people above) and probably make some weird > claims but when the service is being negatively affected by certain people > and I am finding my time taken up by these people and not with signals and > clients then its best I step aside. > > Of course I still have some good friends and good people I met through > this service and will keep some of you as my personal FB friends. Some of > you do email me asking for advice on other issues and opinion on long term > trades so if you wish to still keep in touch then please email 4x pips here > and they will give you my private email address and you can still email me > when you need free advice > > So once again thanks everybody and I will still be available into start > next week. So if you have any questions then please let me know before then. > > Thanks again and happy trading > Martin > > -- > 4X PIPS TEAM > www.profitfromtrading.co.uk > > > > To unsubscribe from our periodic e-mail messages, please click the > following link<http://www.4xpips.net/secure/unsubscribe?e=amilovic%40gmail.com&s=d2r75AJWMX> > --e89a8f3bb01530d18104cd0c7be4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Martin,<div><br></div><div>Since it has been less than 30 days since I p= aid for your signals, and as you agreed, the results have been not so outst= anding. I would like to receive a chargeback on my payment.=A0</div><div><b= r> </div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Alex<br><br><div class=3D"gmail= _quote">On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 3:13 PM, 4x Pips <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a h= ref=3D"mailto:admin@4xpips.net" target=3D"_blank">admin@4xpips.net</a>><= /span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p> <span style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">Hi all</span></p> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> =A0</div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> It is with great regret that I have decided to step aside at 4X Pips after= 4 fantastic years. Unfortunately the past 1-2 months the signals have not = been the best, even though the last week we are back to some profit, =A0and= people who have recently joined have decided to target a lot of anger and = abuse directly at me. Recently I have had personal threats, had blatant lie= s told about me, people posting untrue facts about me and my private live a= nd had people creating fake Facebook profiles to try and befriend me on FB = and check into my private and personal life. For everyone who knows me thro= ugh the group or knows me personally and knows the service for more than 3 = months they will know that I have always worked hard (16 hour days sometime= s) to give people a reliable, honest and fair signal service. Its just unfo= rtunate that we have had a losing few weeks after the FPA offer and new web= site.</div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> =A0</div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> Its also unfortunate that from the 100's of clients (and 1000's ov= er the past few years) that its only 4-5 people who made it personal agains= t me and decided to target me direct. So for that reason I am stepping asid= e as it means someone else can step in and run the service better without t= his level of abuse and personal attacks.=A0</div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> =A0</div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> So on that note, I have asked TCi who has been giving excellent pips over = the past 2 months in the skype group to take over. He will have access to o= ur other traders and it will be his decision whether to send the other trad= ers signals out or hold them or adjust them. He will be available in the sk= ype groups and you can ask for his help and support there. His signals and = updates will be sent out as usual by email, twitter, twitter sms and facebo= ok. In my opinion this will improve the signals and service and lead to goo= d pips and profits. I can honestly say if TCi was not available then I woul= d continue but I have known him for a long time now and am so impressed wit= h his signals and work that I am happy for him to provide the signals for 4= X Pips signals. All signals will still have entry, stop loss and TP and wil= l be similar to the signals we had this week with smaller SL's which wi= ll be better. There will also be more major pairs such as EU, GU, AU & = UC. People will see no change to the service, you will still get approx the= same number of signals, sent the same way, TCi will be admin of the skype = group and email support will still be available from other admins. I may jo= in the skype group as a client in the coming weeks and will be happy to cha= t to fellow clients when I do</div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> =A0</div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> The admin side of things (such as questions about the service, any problem= s you are having or =A0subscriptions) will be dealt with by the other admin= s in the company. Also 1 person will now deal with all emails as we had som= e occurances where there was a number of us answering emails and missing em= ails so now 1 person deals with them and they aim to answer all emails with= in 24hrs but they will aim for much faster during the London trading hours<= /div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> =A0</div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> Let me say that this is not a negative for 4X Pips and I honestly believe = it will help improve the pips and service and there is still plans for the = 3rd party verification, autotrade and ipad/android apps and they will be wo= rked on by the other admins shortly. Please keep an eye on the website for = updates on the autotrade system especially. Of course some people will view= this negatively (the 4-5 people above) and probably make some weird claims= but when the service is being negatively affected by certain people and I = am finding my time taken up by these people and not with signals and client= s then its best I step aside.</div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> =A0</div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> Of course I still have some good friends and good people I met through thi= s service and will keep some of you as my personal FB friends. Some of you = do email me asking for advice on other issues and opinion on long term trad= es so if you wish to still keep in touch then please email 4x pips here and= they will give you my private email address and you can still email me whe= n you need free advice</div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> =A0</div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> So once again thanks everybody and I will still be available into start ne= xt week. So if you have any questions then please let me know before then.<= /div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> =A0</div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> Thanks again and happy trading</div> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> Martin</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"> <div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"> <div> =A0</div> --=A0<br> <font color=3D"#003300">4X PIPS TEAM</font> <div> <font color=3D"#990000"><a href=3D"http://www.profitfromtrading.co.uk/" t= arget=3D"_blank">www.profitfromtrading.co.uk</a></font></div> </div> <p> =A0</p> <br> <font color=3D"gray">To unsubscribe from our periodic e-mail messages, plea= se click the following <a href=3D"http://www.4xpips.net/secure/unsubscribe?= e=3Damilovic%40gmail.com&s=3Dd2r75AJWMX" target=3D"_blank">link</a></fo= nt> <br> </font></span></blockquote></div><br></div> --e89a8f3bb01530d18104cd0c7be4--
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