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Subject: Is service in the end worth it? Some questions and thoughts
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Hey Martin,

I must say it is a bit shocking that some people target you on a =
personal level. Some cant differentiate between personal life and =
business. My thought is that some of these signed up and risked whatever =
they had into a few trades that was loosers. Obviously these traders (if =
you can call them that) dont have much do to in business in general, and =
looks like they dont have much to do in interpersonal relations either. =
If it was me in your seat I would take a run with a lawyer.  I would =
have not accepted this kind of shamelessness. Unfortunately theres a lot =
of gold diggers in this biz, beliving they will hit the jackpot with a =
few trades. Theres no such thing as quick rich scheeme, but some people =
dont understand it.=20

That being said, I have also decided to stop this subscription. It has =
nothing to do with that I had a few loosers. Belive me, after staying in =
this biz for 4 years I=E2=80=99ve been through some rough patches. The =
reason I stopped now is that Im corporated with a partner in USA. Myself =
I live in Norway. We are trading the futures, binaries and fx spot. We =
have decided that eventually we will launch a signal service as well. I =
was hoping you could give me an insight what this would take. I was a =
bit shocked by what you have experienced, but I have a few questions =
that you might know the answer to?

1. What is the costs of running a webiste with paypal subscription and =
email service on a monthly basis?=20
2. Did you get programmers to SEO optimize, marketing and other related =
to gaining high traffic?
3. How many hours do you got to put into running the website on a daily =
basis?
4. Do you make a good income of it?
5. How long time period did it take to build a client base?
6. In general, is it all worth it?

Thats all on my mind now Martin.=20

Hope you could find time to answer my mail.

best regards,

Ronnie Brenden
Brenden Mayer Investments LLC

From: 4x Pips=20
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:13 PM
To: Ronnie Brenden=20
Subject: CHANGE TO SERVICE

Hi all

It is with great regret that I have decided to step aside at 4X Pips =
after 4 fantastic years. Unfortunately the past 1-2 months the signals =
have not been the best, even though the last week we are back to some =
profit,  and people who have recently joined have decided to target a =
lot of anger and abuse directly at me. Recently I have had personal =
threats, had blatant lies told about me, people posting untrue facts =
about me and my private live and had people creating fake Facebook =
profiles to try and befriend me on FB and check into my private and =
personal life. For everyone who knows me through the group or knows me =
personally and knows the service for more than 3 months they will know =
that I have always worked hard (16 hour days sometimes) to give people a =
reliable, honest and fair signal service. Its just unfortunate that we =
have had a losing few weeks after the FPA offer and new website.

Its also unfortunate that from the 100's of clients (and 1000's over the =
past few years) that its only 4-5 people who made it personal against me =
and decided to target me direct. So for that reason I am stepping aside =
as it means someone else can step in and run the service better without =
this level of abuse and personal attacks.=20

So on that note, I have asked TCi who has been giving excellent pips =
over the past 2 months in the skype group to take over. He will have =
access to our other traders and it will be his decision whether to send =
the other traders signals out or hold them or adjust them. He will be =
available in the skype groups and you can ask for his help and support =
there. His signals and updates will be sent out as usual by email, =
twitter, twitter sms and facebook. In my opinion this will improve the =
signals and service and lead to good pips and profits. I can honestly =
say if TCi was not available then I would continue but I have known him =
for a long time now and am so impressed with his signals and work that I =
am happy for him to provide the signals for 4X Pips signals. All signals =
will still have entry, stop loss and TP and will be similar to the =
signals we had this week with smaller SL's which will be better. There =
will also be more major pairs such as EU, GU, AU & UC. People will see =
no change to the service, you will still get approx the same number of =
signals, sent the same way, TCi will be admin of the skype group and =
email support will still be available from other admins. I may join the =
skype group as a client in the coming weeks and will be happy to chat to =
fellow clients when I do

The admin side of things (such as questions about the service, any =
problems you are having or  subscriptions) will be dealt with by the =
other admins in the company. Also 1 person will now deal with all emails =
as we had some occurances where there was a number of us answering =
emails and missing emails so now 1 person deals with them and they aim =
to answer all emails within 24hrs but they will aim for much faster =
during the London trading hours

Let me say that this is not a negative for 4X Pips and I honestly =
believe it will help improve the pips and service and there is still =
plans for the 3rd party verification, autotrade and ipad/android apps =
and they will be worked on by the other admins shortly. Please keep an =
eye on the website for updates on the autotrade system especially. Of =
course some people will view this negatively (the 4-5 people above) and =
probably make some weird claims but when the service is being negatively =
affected by certain people and I am finding my time taken up by these =
people and not with signals and clients then its best I step aside.

Of course I still have some good friends and good people I met through =
this service and will keep some of you as my personal FB friends. Some =
of you do email me asking for advice on other issues and opinion on long =
term trades so if you wish to still keep in touch then please email 4x =
pips here and they will give you my private email address and you can =
still email me when you need free advice

So once again thanks everybody and I will still be available into start =
next week. So if you have any questions then please let me know before =
then.

Thanks again and happy trading
Martin

--=20
4X PIPS TEAM=20
www.profitfromtrading.co.uk

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<DIV>Hey Martin,<BR><BR>I must say it is a bit shocking that some people =
target=20
you on a personal level. Some cant differentiate between personal life =
and=20
business. My thought is that some of these signed up and risked whatever =
they=20
had into a few trades that was loosers. Obviously these traders (if you =
can call=20
them that) dont have much do to in business in general, and looks like =
they dont=20
have much to do in interpersonal relations either. If it was me in your =
seat I=20
would take a run with a lawyer.&nbsp; I would have not accepted this =
kind of=20
shamelessness. Unfortunately theres a lot of gold diggers in this biz, =
beliving=20
they will hit the jackpot with a few trades. Theres no such thing as =
quick rich=20
scheeme, but some people dont understand it. </DIV>
<DIV=20
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COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: =
none">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma">
<DIV><FONT size=3D3 face=3DCalibri><BR>That being said, I have also =
decided to stop=20
this subscription. It has nothing to do with that I had a few loosers. =
Belive=20
me, after staying in this biz for 4 years I=E2=80=99ve been through some =
rough patches.=20
The reason I stopped now is that Im corporated with a partner in USA. =
Myself I=20
live in Norway. We are trading the futures, binaries and fx spot. We =
have=20
decided that eventually we will launch a signal service as well. I was =
hoping=20
you could give me an insight what this would take. I was a bit shocked =
by what=20
you have experienced, but I have a few questions that you might know the =
answer=20
to?<BR><BR>1. What is the costs of running a webiste with paypal =
subscription=20
and email service on a monthly basis? <BR>2. Did you get programmers to =
SEO=20
optimize, marketing and other related to gaining high traffic?<BR>3. How =
many=20
hours do you got to put into running the website on a daily basis?<BR>4. =
Do you=20
make a good income of it?<BR>5. How long time period did it take to =
build a=20
client base?<BR>6. In general, is it all worth it?<BR><BR><BR>Thats all =
on my=20
mind now Martin. <BR><BR>Hope you could find time to answer my=20
mail.<BR><BR><BR>best regards,<BR><BR><BR>Ronnie Brenden<BR>Brenden =
Mayer=20
Investments LLC<BR><BR><BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Dadmin@4xpips.net=20
href=3D"mailto:admin@4xpips.net">4x Pips</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dronnie.brenden@gmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:ronnie.brenden@gmail.com">Ronnie Brenden</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> CHANGE TO SERVICE</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; =
COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: =
none">
<P><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">Hi =
all</SPAN></P>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">It is with great =
regret that I=20
have decided to step aside at 4X Pips after 4 fantastic years. =
Unfortunately the=20
past 1-2 months the signals have not been the best, even though the last =
week we=20
are back to some profit,&nbsp; and people who have recently joined have =
decided=20
to target a lot of anger and abuse directly at me. Recently I have had =
personal=20
threats, had blatant lies told about me, people posting untrue facts =
about me=20
and my private live and had people creating fake Facebook profiles to =
try and=20
befriend me on FB and check into my private and personal life. For =
everyone who=20
knows me through the group or knows me personally and knows the service =
for more=20
than 3 months they will know that I have always worked hard (16 hour =
days=20
sometimes) to give people a reliable, honest and fair signal service. =
Its just=20
unfortunate that we have had a losing few weeks after the FPA offer and =
new=20
website.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">Its also unfortunate =
that from=20
the 100's of clients (and 1000's over the past few years) that its only =
4-5=20
people who made it personal against me and decided to target me direct. =
So for=20
that reason I am stepping aside as it means someone else can step in and =
run the=20
service better without this level of abuse and personal attacks. </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">So on that note, I =
have asked=20
TCi who has been giving excellent pips over the past 2 months in the =
skype group=20
to take over. He will have access to our other traders and it will be =
his=20
decision whether to send the other traders signals out or hold them or =
adjust=20
them. He will be available in the skype groups and you can ask for his =
help and=20
support there. His signals and updates will be sent out as usual by =
email,=20
twitter, twitter sms and facebook. In my opinion this will improve the =
signals=20
and service and lead to good pips and profits. I can honestly say if TCi =
was not=20
available then I would continue but I have known him for a long time now =
and am=20
so impressed with his signals and work that I am happy for him to =
provide the=20
signals for 4X Pips signals. All signals will still have entry, stop =
loss and TP=20
and will be similar to the signals we had this week with smaller SL's =
which will=20
be better. There will also be more major pairs such as EU, GU, AU &amp; =
UC.=20
People will see no change to the service, you will still get approx the =
same=20
number of signals, sent the same way, TCi will be admin of the skype =
group and=20
email support will still be available from other admins. I may join the =
skype=20
group as a client in the coming weeks and will be happy to chat to =
fellow=20
clients when I do</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">The admin side of =
things (such=20
as questions about the service, any problems you are having or&nbsp;=20
subscriptions) will be dealt with by the other admins in the company. =
Also 1=20
person will now deal with all emails as we had some occurances where =
there was a=20
number of us answering emails and missing emails so now 1 person deals =
with them=20
and they aim to answer all emails within 24hrs but they will aim for =
much faster=20
during the London trading hours</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">Let me say that this =
is not a=20
negative for 4X Pips and I honestly believe it will help improve the =
pips and=20
service and there is still plans for the 3rd party verification, =
autotrade and=20
ipad/android apps and they will be worked on by the other admins =
shortly. Please=20
keep an eye on the website for updates on the autotrade system =
especially. Of=20
course some people will view this negatively (the 4-5 people above) and =
probably=20
make some weird claims but when the service is being negatively affected =
by=20
certain people and I am finding my time taken up by these people and not =
with=20
signals and clients then its best I step aside.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">Of course I still =
have some=20
good friends and good people I met through this service and will keep =
some of=20
you as my personal FB friends. Some of you do email me asking for advice =
on=20
other issues and opinion on long term trades so if you wish to still =
keep in=20
touch then please email 4x pips here and they will give you my private =
email=20
address and you can still email me when you need free advice</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">So once again thanks =
everybody=20
and I will still be available into start next week. So if you have any =
questions=20
then please let me know before then.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">Thanks again and =
happy=20
trading</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">Martin</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: small">
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>-- <BR><FONT color=3D#003300>4X PIPS TEAM</FONT>=20
<DIV><FONT color=3D#990000><A =
href=3D"http://www.profitfromtrading.co.uk/"=20
target=3D_blank>www.profitfromtrading.co.uk</A></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<P>&nbsp;</P><BR><FONT color=3Dgray>To unsubscribe from our periodic =
e-mail=20
messages, please click the following <A=20
href=3D"http://www.4xpips.net/secure/unsubscribe?e=3Dronnie.brenden%40gma=
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