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From: philip brooks <hotphil2000@yahoo.com.au>
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=0A=0A=0AMartin=0AI am committed but just to diversify my investments.=0A=
=0A"Personally I use another signal company who is very good one for mainly=
 =0Acommodities and they claim 2000 - 3000 Pips every month and their =0Ase=
rvice has been poor the last few weeks too."=0A=0AWhat service is this one =
please=0A=0Aregards=0APhil=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A F=
rom: 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net>=0ATo: Philip Brooks <hotphil2000@yahoo.com.=
au> =0ASent: Wednesday, 17 October 2012, 17:30=0ASubject: SIGNALS=0A =0A=0A=
Signals=0A=0A=A0=0AHi all,=0A=A0=0ASome people have been asking me question=
s about the service and the poor performance in the last few weeks and I wa=
nted to answer a few of them=0A=A0=0A1. Expected profit of 1000+ Pips a mon=
th=0AThis is our expected profit based over the past 12-18 months profit we=
 achieved. It is only an expected value and as people know you cannot guara=
ntee any pips in forex but we do find we generally provide this profit over=
 the month and in 16 of the last 18 months we have provided more than the 1=
000+ Pips. Chatting in the skype group yesterday one trader said he has had=
 11 consecutive winning months with this month his one losing one (using hi=
s own system) so it isa volatile and strange market at the moment. Yesterda=
y for example, EURUSD went up +200 Pips for 2 reason...1) a rumour about Ge=
rmany helping Spain which later turned out to be false and misrepresented a=
nd 2) Moodys NOT downgrading Spain.....so a 200+ Pips move because of these=
 2 reasons is mad to be honest. Personally I use another signal company who=
 is very good one for mainly commodities and they claim 2000 - 3000 Pips ev=
ery month and their service has been poor the last few weeks too. So I am
 not making excuses as I agree things have been poor but it seems to be a r=
ecurring theme at the moment.=0A=A0=0A2. We do not report true results=0ATh=
is is always a problem area. Some mad signal companies (and I have used the=
m) will report the profit as the max profit it hit during the trade so if a=
 signal spiked up 40pips and straight down in seconds and hit SL then they =
would report +40 Pips which is total rubbish. We report what we provide as =
a signal and advice but as we finish at 4PM London time and we have traders=
 from all over the world then people will achieve different pips. Yesterday=
 some traders told me they made +30 Pips on EURAUD while some people who we=
re sleeping while the signal was at +30 Pips would not have made any profit=
 and would have made 0 Pips. (we will report this as 0 Pips anyway in our w=
eekly report). But if after 4PM a signal went within 1-2 pips of hitting a =
TP and then reversed and hit our entry I would expect a large number of peo=
ple to have made a good profit from it and would report this as a range bas=
ed on lowest to highest. We also have access to some clients
 accounts and we use these as reference to see what profit people achieved.=
 These 5 people are based around the world and gives us a good snapshot of =
the signals. I know some people won't agree with this but this we find is t=
he best reflection of the service and the profit available=0A=A0=0A3. Peopl=
e claiming to blow their accounts=0AI have had 1 person claim he has lost a=
ll his account following our signals over the past 4 weeks. As we had prett=
y much a breakeven week last week based on % and average about 10 signals a=
 week then that would mean he has blown his account in 30 trades of which a=
bout 6-8 hit SL and rest were SL AT ENTRY or PROFIT. So although it is poss=
ible he has, he must be risking 20-30% per trade but please please use good=
 money management. I have added the money management guide again for people=
. Its not a perfect guide but it gives a guide to what you should be tradin=
g per signals, don't trade the same lot size per signal as our GOLD signal =
can have up to 200pips SL while an USDJPY can have only 30 Pips SL, adjust =
accordingly. Its really frustrating when somebody says "oh that was a big l=
oser", it should be a 2% loser (some people may trade higher with 3 or 4% t=
hough).=A0=0A=A0=0A4. People claiming almost all our signal hit SL recently=
=0AIt came to my attention yesterday that some people are getting mixed up =
with HIT SL & HIT SL AT ENTRY. If a signal hits SL then its a loser, if it =
hits SL AT ENTRY then its a breakeven trade as we have moved our SL to entr=
y so no loss can occur. Please keep an eye on our updates as we tend to mov=
e SL TO ENTRY after about 25-30Pips to avoid any loss=0A=A0=0A5 Not posting=
 signals on =A0Facebook etc=0AUnfortunately there is the very very odd occa=
sion where a signal did not go out on FB but we all know FB can crash somet=
imes and I click post and move on to something else and then see it did not=
 post and refresh and nothing happens but this is the very odd occasion and=
 should not be a problem=0A=A0=0A6. The Free week=0APeople are not being au=
tobilled by PP so are getting a free week and this will also continue for e=
veryone else so I hope this covers the lack of service last week=0A=A0=0A7.=
 GOLD SERVICE=0AAs the service is just 1 email a day and no updates are sen=
t then please manage the signals yourself. We do use larger SL & TP but as =
you can see the market is very volatile at the moment and trades are going =
into profit and swinging into loss so move SL TO ENTRY after about 30 Pips =
if possible and close when you like.=0A=A0=0A8. Skype group=0APlease keep t=
he skype chat upbeat and if you have a problem speak to Admin direct when h=
e is online (sometimes he may appear offline but just message him and he sh=
ould come online during London trading hours). I have noticed 1-2 people ge=
tting frustrated with the signals and their own trading which I totally agr=
ee with but please don't take it out on fellow people in the group. The sky=
pe rules are in the welcome emails you received.=0A=A0=0AI hope this clears=
 up most things. If you have any questions then please let me know and than=
ks everybody for their patience and hopefully in coming days and weeks we w=
ill make some good pips=0A=A0=0AThanks=0A=0A=A0--=A0=0A4X PIPS TEAM =0Awww.=
profitfromtrading.co.uk=0A=A0=0A=A0=0ATo unsubscribe from our periodic e-ma=
il messages, please click the following link 
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ar=
ial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span><br></span></div><div=
>Martin</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-=
family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-sty=
le: normal;">I am committed but just to diversify my investments.</div><div=
 style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,hel=
vetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br>=
</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family:=
 arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: nor=
mal;">"Personally I use another signal company who is very good one for mai=
nly =0Acommodities and they claim 2000 - 3000 Pips every month and their =
=0Aservice has been poor the last few weeks too."</div><div style=3D"color:=
 rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style=
=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">What servi=
ce is this one please</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18=
.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transpa=
rent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); fon=
t-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-colo=
r: transparent; font-style: normal;">regards</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(=
0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; ba=
ckground-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Phil<br></div><div><br></=
div>  <div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
4pt;">
 <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-s=
ize: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <hr size=3D=
"1">  <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> 4x Pips &lt;adm=
in@4xpips.net&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> =
Philip Brooks &lt;hotphil2000@yahoo.com.au&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-=
weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 17 October 2012, 17:30<br> <b><s=
pan style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> SIGNALS<br> </font> </=
div> <br><div id=3D"yiv1999175787"><div>=0A=09<span style=3D"font-family:ar=
ial;font-size:small;">Signals</span></div>=0A<br style=3D"font-family:arial=
;font-size:small;">=0A<div class=3D"yiv1999175787gmail_quote" style=3D"font=
-family:arial;font-size:small;">=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09&nbsp;</div>=0A=09<div>=
=0A=09=09Hi all,</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09&nbsp;</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09S=
ome people have been asking me questions about the service and the poor per=
formance in the last few weeks and I wanted to answer a few of them</div>=
=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09&nbsp;</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=091. Expected profit of 1=
000+ Pips a month</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09This is our expected profit base=
d over the past 12-18 months profit we achieved. It is only an expected val=
ue and as people know you cannot guarantee any pips in forex but we do find=
 we generally provide this profit over the month and in 16 of the last 18 m=
onths we have provided more than the 1000+ Pips. Chatting in the skype grou=
p yesterday one trader said he has had 11 consecutive winning months with t=
his month his one losing one (using his own system) so it isa volatile and =
strange market at the moment. Yesterday for example, EURUSD went up +200 Pi=
ps for 2 reason...1) a rumour about Germany helping Spain which later turne=
d out to be false and misrepresented and 2) Moodys NOT downgrading Spain...=
..so a 200+ Pips move because of these 2 reasons is mad to be honest. Perso=
nally I use another signal company who is very good one for mainly commodit=
ies and they claim 2000 - 3000 Pips every month and their service has been =
poor the last few weeks too. So I
 am not making excuses as I agree things have been poor but it seems to be =
a recurring theme at the moment.</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09&nbsp;</div>=0A=
=09<div>=0A=09=092. We do not report true results</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09=
This is always a problem area. Some mad signal companies (and I have used t=
hem) will report the profit as the max profit it hit during the trade so if=
 a signal spiked up 40pips and straight down in seconds and hit SL then the=
y would report +40 Pips which is total rubbish. We report what we provide a=
s a signal and advice but as we finish at 4PM London time and we have trade=
rs from all over the world then people will achieve different pips. Yesterd=
ay some traders told me they made +30 Pips on EURAUD while some people who =
were sleeping while the signal was at +30 Pips would not have made any prof=
it and would have made 0 Pips. (we will report this as 0 Pips anyway in our=
 weekly report). But if after 4PM a signal went within 1-2 pips of hitting =
a TP and then reversed and hit our entry I would expect a large number of p=
eople to have made a good profit from it and would report this as a range b=
ased on lowest to highest. We also have access to some clients
 accounts and we use these as reference to see what profit people achieved.=
 These 5 people are based around the world and gives us a good snapshot of =
the signals. I know some people won't agree with this but this we find is t=
he best reflection of the service and the profit available</div>=0A=09<div>=
=0A=09=09&nbsp;</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=093. People claiming to blow their a=
ccounts</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09I have had 1 person claim he has lost all =
his account following our signals over the past 4 weeks. As we had pretty m=
uch a breakeven week last week based on % and average about 10 signals a we=
ek then that would mean he has blown his account in 30 trades of which abou=
t 6-8 hit SL and rest were SL AT ENTRY or PROFIT. So although it is possibl=
e he has, he must be risking 20-30% per trade but please please use good mo=
ney management. I have added the money management guide again for people. I=
ts not a perfect guide but it gives a guide to what you should be trading p=
er signals, don't trade the same lot size per signal as our GOLD signal can=
 have up to 200pips SL while an USDJPY can have only 30 Pips SL, adjust acc=
ordingly. Its really frustrating when somebody says "oh that was a big lose=
r", it should be a 2% loser (some people may trade higher with 3 or 4% thou=
gh).&nbsp;</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09&nbsp;</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=094. Peop=
le claiming almost all our signal hit SL recently</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09=
It came to my attention yesterday that some people are getting mixed up wit=
h HIT SL &amp; HIT SL AT ENTRY. If a signal hits SL then its a loser, if it=
 hits SL AT ENTRY then its a breakeven trade as we have moved our SL to ent=
ry so no loss can occur. Please keep an eye on our updates as we tend to mo=
ve SL TO ENTRY after about 25-30Pips to avoid any loss</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=
=09=09&nbsp;</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=095 Not posting signals on &nbsp;Facebo=
ok etc</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09Unfortunately there is the very very odd oc=
casion where a signal did not go out on FB but we all know FB can crash som=
etimes and I click post and move on to something else and then see it did n=
ot post and refresh and nothing happens but this is the very odd occasion a=
nd should not be a problem</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09&nbsp;</div>=0A=09<div>=
=0A=09=096. The Free week</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09People are not being aut=
obilled by PP so are getting a free week and this will also continue for ev=
eryone else so I hope this covers the lack of service last week</div>=0A=09=
<div>=0A=09=09&nbsp;</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=097. GOLD SERVICE</div>=0A=09<d=
iv>=0A=09=09As the service is just 1 email a day and no updates are sent th=
en please manage the signals yourself. We do use larger SL &amp; TP but as =
you can see the market is very volatile at the moment and trades are going =
into profit and swinging into loss so move SL TO ENTRY after about 30 Pips =
if possible and close when you like.</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09&nbsp;</div>=
=0A=09<div>=0A=09=098. Skype group</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09Please keep the=
 skype chat upbeat and if you have a problem speak to Admin direct when he =
is online (sometimes he may appear offline but just message him and he shou=
ld come online during London trading hours). I have noticed 1-2 people gett=
ing frustrated with the signals and their own trading which I totally agree=
 with but please don't take it out on fellow people in the group. The skype=
 rules are in the welcome emails you received.</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09&nb=
sp;</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09I hope this clears up most things. If you have=
 any questions then please let me know and thanks everybody for their patie=
nce and hopefully in coming days and weeks we will make some good pips</div=
>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09&nbsp;</div>=0A=09<div>=0A=09=09Thanks<br clear=3D"all=
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