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Return-path: <helix_siewkong@yahoo.com> Envelope-to: admin@4xpips.net Delivery-date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 02:57:36 -0500 Received: from nm7-vm6.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com ([106.10.148.181]:32793) by host.silverbacklabs.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <helix_siewkong@yahoo.com>) id 1TtD13-000275-Ph for admin@4xpips.net; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 02:57:35 -0500 Received: from [106.10.166.122] by nm7.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 07:57:26 -0000 Received: from [106.10.196.65] by tm11.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 07:57:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp125-mob.biz.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2013 07:57:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1357804645; bh=3q9CSpi1fnBT2TKloAKZr/awPaaK+WhHX6fCy2ob/EE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=6qi98Qt0S2vqT1yVoHJQ/wf/uxl08m84Lcr5KPM4iMkqT2cU8tXh2apgoeLZIR3CUe16pHdNOoHQ7WJBJvVP5JgYZ/r6PZ3p+YoTLVqgscW+Dk/c//yZAs4Bp9ZaXRD27jbBXbq58m566AW/S2p9PUjfarJwFUVxWYJRwnpYaHc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 495738.70469.bm@smtp125-mob.biz.mail.sg3.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: I2I2DeYVM1mFgiIsrfbAUIsFDkPA_7rLrnbssmgSGyaQIXS SRdX_cY3VPGdk4tHAhc_sjhgTyilCylvxae.LzQHDgTnM9Axg41XiKzrCZI5 r0l_SvYxIyZ_PKNxd63jEfch.HNHc36cDHREXikEAkQZgoI.YTgYnBrf2Jlp 476gg2.KPTcgg.6GIIUL58RQdtX8UlI4ysBIktmPqjJ6Epw6sMWvhPhTv64O A6Fj9hBSIkMikEbIFhwISbSd6M_MsRgFLQBX8bFKIX423Z0GcZYQ_uh07YtO 7E5.C3N.n_UVIxRekuU4ohJ0.3mXbtFua150vRFHYzzI8VxLGssN_gEpTNkS yGYCy3KbXP14zOV3uooDkmgfs.q84VuSEZtWI.p55ZVW49XYr9if2KpoFNcL DAeOruhFQviDzeUJqmz3_psCbS_GQs9uKMh23oBeVraL_2DbSChYkHUNkJ_O wxOSrVfgZk5EbYboYyr7X2RJ2wjsHthiCMP023BVLoT56X4jbMbljBOM6sV. 2tu3qGIEHPL6Pdi2j X-Yahoo-SMTP: TMKwSPSswBDQFbUI7NsBYM5q3TzdmbL3umYO Received: from [10.13.118.130] (helix_siewkong@203.117.37.57 with xymcookie) by smtp125-mob.biz.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2013 07:57:25 +0000 UTC References: <E1Tt77x-0006F8-R1@host.silverbacklabs.net> In-Reply-To: <E1Tt77x-0006F8-R1@host.silverbacklabs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-A2D42C55-9D70-4935-BFEE-8A80A367955C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <BB58BAFC-DADF-405F-82C5-C88DC9567B26@yahoo.com> Cc: "bengchun@3livetrading.com" <bengchun@3livetrading.com>, "ahchun99@gmail.com" <ahchun99@gmail.com>, "kennethcheah@3livetrading.com" <kennethcheah@3livetrading.com>, "kennethcheah88@gmail.com" <kennethcheah88@gmail.com>, "klein@3livetrading.com" <klein@3livetrading.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Klein <helix_siewkong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: EXPLANATION Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:57:15 +0800 To: 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net>, 4x Pips <support@4xpips.net> --Apple-Mail-A2D42C55-9D70-4935-BFEE-8A80A367955C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Admin, Frankly to say that we are really disappointed with the signal service perfo= rmance. After we have subscribe the service via FPA promotion, we learnt tha= t this signal service could not commit as if the advertised performance (few hundreds pips profit) within th= is 3 months. Oppositely it has caused us loss of hundreds pips within these months since w= e followed this service very closely. Eventually it triggered much anger and= complaints from our portfolio investors just because we trusted on your ser= vice. I think you should be aware of the performance of this signal service a= nd also received a lot of complaints about your service. I also can see nume= rous negative comment and a lot of people gave up on this service as well th= rough number of participants in skype and FB. However, we never lodged complaint over over it and never ever post any nega= tive comment about your service on FPA or other website. We understood that w= e should bear the loss and any responsibility since we trusted on your servi= ce. Furthermore, these 3 months market performed very tough and understood t= his treated your service not really fair enough if we claimed that your perf= ormance is poor. We also understood that it is not a good idea if we request for refund. To b= e fair to us, we would like to request for 3-month complimentary service so t= hat at least our investors were compensated and get convinced. I believe if t= he performance is profitable within these 2 months, we would definately be h= appy to continue subscribe this service and maintain it. We are also looking= for long term relationship with your company. Appreciate if you could advise us and looking forward to your prompt reply. Thank you. Regards, Klein On 10 Jan, 2013, at 9:40 AM, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wrote: > Hi all >=20 > I have had a number of emails from people asking about why they were recei= ving signals last week and others asking why they stopped so suddenly this w= eek so I will try and explain. We ran an FPA promotion from 25th Sept to 30t= h Sept 2012 and all of the people on 3 months subscriptions had their subscr= iptions ending Christmas week leading into new year. We use a delivery syste= m called amember which breaks our clients into ALL, CURRENT, EXPIRED, POTENT= IAL based on their subscription status so from Christmas week to make things= easier we sent signals to ALL so basically anybody who ever received signal= s from us since Sept (when we implemented the amember system) received email= s again. We continued this until Monday this week. So for people who joined 2= 5th Sept on 3 months pckage they got arppox 2 weeks free and people who join= ed 30th got approx 1 weeks free.=20 >=20 > Unfortunately we had a number of people who emailed complaining that they w= ere receiving emails again and were worried we would start re-charging them f= or this so we had to take the decision to stop the free signals on Monday as= we had at minimum given 1 week free as we promised. >=20 > Also, some people have emailed saying they wanted to continue and we are n= ot sending signals, this is because PAYPAL cancelled all our autopayments in= November so anybody who paid via payal in Sept FPA offer and wish to contin= ue can now go to www.profitfromtrading.co.uk and pay direct by Paypal. The p= rices have all been cut by approx 20% and if you choose the $159 3 month pac= kage the total discount is greater so this will still meet your FPA 20% disc= ount rate >=20 > I hope this clarifies things and I am sorry we could not have given the pe= ople who only got 1 week free another free week but as you see it is difficu= lt >=20 > If anybody has any problems and feel they did not get the free week or wee= ks they were promised then please let us know immediatley so we can correct i= t. =20 >=20 > Thanks for your help >=20 > 4x pips >=20 >=20 > To unsubscribe from our periodic e-mail messages, please click the followi= ng link=20 --Apple-Mail-A2D42C55-9D70-4935-BFEE-8A80A367955C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head></head><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div><div><div><div><div>Dear A= dmin,</div><div><br></div><div>Frankly to say that we are really disappointe= d with the signal service performance. After we have subscribe the service v= ia FPA promotion, we learnt that this signal service could not</div><div>com= mit as if the advertised performance (few hundreds pips profit) within this 3= months.</div><div><br></div><div>Oppositely it has caused us loss of hundre= ds pips within these months since we followed this service very closely. Eve= ntually it triggered much anger and complaints from our portfolio investors j= ust because we trusted on your service. I think you should be aware of the p= erformance of this signal service and also received a lot of complaints abou= t your service. I also can see numerous negative comment and a lot of people= gave up on this service as well through number of participants in skype and= FB.</div><div><br></div><div>However, we never lodged complaint over over i= t and never ever post any negative comment about your service on FPA or othe= r website. We understood that we should bear the loss and any responsibility= since we trusted on your service. Furthermore, these 3 months market perfor= med very tough and understood this treated your service not really fair enou= gh if we claimed that your performance is poor.</div><div><br></div><div>We a= lso understood that it is not a good idea if we request for refund. To be fa= ir to us, we would like to request for 3-month complimentary service so that= at least our investors were compensated and get convinced. I believe if the= performance is profitable within these 2 months, we would definately be hap= py to continue subscribe this service and maintain it. We are also looking f= or long term relationship with your company.</div><div><br></div><div>Apprec= iate if you could advise us and looking forward to your prompt reply.</div><= div><br></div><div>Thank you.<br><br><div>Regards,</div><div>Klein</div></di= v><div><br>On 10 Jan, 2013, at 9:40 AM, 4x Pips <<a href=3D"mailto:admin@= 4xpips.net">admin@4xpips.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockqu= ote type=3D"cite"><div><p> Hi all</p> <p> I have had a number of emails from people asking about why they wer= e receiving signals last week and others asking why they stopped so suddenly= this week so I will try and explain. We ran an FPA promotion from 25th Sept= to 30th Sept 2012 and all of the people on 3 months subscriptions had their= subscriptions ending Christmas week leading into new year. We use a deliver= y system called amember which breaks our clients into ALL, CURRENT, EXPIRED,= POTENTIAL based on their subscription status so from Christmas week to make= things easier we sent signals to ALL so basically anybody who ever received= signals from us since Sept (when we implemented the amember system) receive= d emails again. We continued this until Monday this week. So for people who j= oined 25th Sept on 3 months pckage they got arppox 2 weeks free and people w= ho joined 30th got approx 1 weeks free. </p> <p> Unfortunately we had a number of people who emailed complaining tha= t they were receiving emails again and were worried we would start re-chargi= ng them for this so we had to take the decision to stop the free signals on M= onday as we had at minimum given 1 week free as we promised.</p> <p> Also, some people have emailed saying they wanted to continue and w= e are not sending signals, this is because PAYPAL cancelled all our autopaym= ents in November so anybody who paid via payal in Sept FPA offer and wish to= continue can now go to <a href=3D"http://www.profitfromtrading.co.uk">www.p= rofitfromtrading.co.uk</a> and pay direct by Paypal. The prices have all bee= n cut by approx 20% and if you choose the $159 3 month package the total dis= count is greater so this will still meet your FPA 20% discount rate</p> <p> I hope this clarifies things and I am sorry we could not have given= the people who only got 1 week free another free week but as you see it is d= ifficult</p> <p> If anybody has any problems and feel they did not get the free week= or weeks they were promised then please let us know immediatley so we can c= orrect it. </p> <p> Thanks for your help</p> <p> 4x pips</p> <br> <font color=3D"gray">To unsubscribe from our periodic e-mail messages, pleas= e click the following <a href=3D"http://www.4xpips.net/secure/unsubscribe?e=3D= helix_siewkong%40yahoo.com&s=3DND1DLiDoTg">link</a></font> <br> </div></blockquote></div><div><span></span></div></div><div></div></div><div= ></div></div><div></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail-A2D42C55-9D70-4935-BFEE-8A80A367955C--
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