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Dear Admin,

Noted with thanks. However, we are worried this month may not be able to mee=
t our breakeven for the loss of these 3 months. Actually we had lost more th=
an 500 pips within these 3 months due to your signal and i believe your clie=
nts and you should have encountered the same result with us.

Nevermind, we just look forward on your signal performance first and wish al=
l of us have a impressive profitable month.

May i know when does this complimentary start? Please advise me soonest.

Anyway, thanks for your complimentary month.

Regards,
Klein

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Jan, 2013, at 3:48 AM, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wrote:

> Hi
>=20
> Ok lets re-add you for 1 month initally and go from there
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Klein <helix_siewkong@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is not my post. Im from singapore and my FPA account is klein880611. A=
nd my real full name is Tang Siew Kong instead of S.K Tan. Please check it o=
ut. I swear i never write any offensive review.
>=20
> Oppositely please check your history in Skype, i remember i did write some=
thing very supportive and defensive message to your service. However, i was r=
eplied with some scolding words by your group members.
>=20
> Please check on your side.
>=20
> Thanks.
>=20
> Regards,
> Klein
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> On 10 Jan, 2013, at 4:02 PM, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wrote:
>=20
>> Hi
>>=20
>> Is this  your FPA review?  Thanks
>>=20
>> S.K Tan, , Singapore
>> Rating:	=09
>> Date of Post:	2012-10-27
>> Review:	 Basically Oct has been a bad month. Haven't been following=
 their trade signal at all since Oct. Well I guess its only my 1 month into t=
he service. I must admit Oct is a really hard month to trade. Will monitor t=
he signals to give another review again. Bad or good is too early to say yet=
. Everyone has their s****y days too.
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Klein <helix_siewkong@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Dear Admin,
>>=20
>> Frankly to say that we are really disappointed with the signal service pe=
rformance. After we have subscribe the service via FPA promotion, we learnt t=
hat this signal service could not
>> commit as if the advertised performance (few hundreds pips profit) within=
 this 3 months.
>>=20
>> Oppositely it has caused us loss of hundreds pips within these months sin=
ce we followed this service very closely. Eventually it triggered much anger=
 and complaints from our portfolio investors just because we trusted on your=
 service. I think you should be aware of the performance of this signal serv=
ice and also received a lot of complaints about your service. I also can see=
 numerous negative comment and a lot of people gave up on this service as we=
ll through number of participants in skype and FB.
>>=20
>> However, we never lodged complaint over over it and never ever post any n=
egative comment about your service on FPA or other website. We understood th=
at we should bear the loss and any responsibility since we trusted on your s=
ervice. Furthermore, these 3 months market performed very tough and understo=
od this treated your service not really fair enough if we claimed that your p=
erformance is poor.
>>=20
>> We also understood that it is not a good idea if we request for refund. T=
o be fair to us, we would like to request for 3-month complimentary service s=
o that at least our investors were compensated and get convinced. I believe i=
f the performance is profitable within these 2 months, we would definately b=
e happy to continue subscribe this service and maintain it. We are also look=
ing for long term relationship with your company.
>>=20
>> Appreciate if you could advise us and looking forward to your prompt repl=
y.
>>=20
>> Thank you.
>>=20
>> Regards,
>> Klein
>>=20
>> On 10 Jan, 2013, at 9:40 AM, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Hi all
>>>=20
>>> I have had a number of emails from people asking about why they were rec=
eiving signals last week and others asking why they stopped so suddenly this=
 week so I will try and explain. We ran an FPA promotion from 25th Sept to 3=
0th Sept 2012 and all of the people on 3 months subscriptions had their subs=
criptions ending Christmas week leading into new year. We use a delivery sys=
tem called amember which breaks our clients into ALL, CURRENT, EXPIRED, POTE=
NTIAL based on their subscription status so from Christmas week to make thin=
gs easier we sent signals to ALL so basically anybody who ever received sign=
als from us since Sept (when we implemented the amember system) received ema=
ils again. We continued this until Monday this week. So for people who joine=
d 25th Sept on 3 months pckage they got arppox 2 weeks free and people who j=
oined 30th got approx 1 weeks free.=20
>>>=20
>>> Unfortunately we had a number of people who emailed complaining that the=
y were receiving emails again and were worried we would start re-charging th=
em for this so we had to take the decision to stop the free signals on Monda=
y as we had at minimum given 1 week free as we promised.
>>>=20
>>> Also, some people have emailed saying they wanted to continue and we are=
 not sending signals, this is because PAYPAL cancelled all our autopayments i=
n November so anybody who paid via payal in Sept FPA offer and wish to conti=
nue can now go to www.profitfromtrading.co.uk and pay direct by Paypal. The p=
rices have all been cut by approx 20% and if you choose the $159 3 month pac=
kage the total discount is greater so this will still meet your FPA 20% disc=
ount rate
>>>=20
>>> I hope this clarifies things and I am sorry we could not have given the p=
eople who only got 1 week free another free week but as you see it is diffic=
ult
>>>=20
>>> If anybody has any problems and feel they did not get the free week or w=
eeks they were promised then please let us know immediatley so we can correc=
t it. =20
>>>=20
>>> Thanks for your help
>>>=20
>>> 4x pips
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> To unsubscribe from our periodic e-mail messages, please click the follo=
wing link=20
>>=20
>>=20
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<html><head></head><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Dear Admin,</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Noted with thanks. However, we are worried this month may not be a=
ble to meet our&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"-webkit-tap-h=
ighlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: r=
gba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128,=
 180, 0.230469); ">breakeven for the loss of these 3 months. Actually we had=
 lost more than 500 pips within these 3 months due to your signal and i beli=
eve your clients and you should have encountered the same result with us.</s=
pan></div><div><br></div><div>Nevermind, we just look forward on your signal=
 performance first and wish all of us have a impressive profitable month.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>May i know when does this complimentary start? Please=
 advise me soonest.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, thanks for your complim=
entary month.</div><div><br><div>Regards,</div><div>Klein</div><div><br></di=
v>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 11 Jan, 2013, at 3:48 AM, 4x Pips &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:admin@4xpips.net">admin@4xpips.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>=
</div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Hi<br><br>Ok lets re-add you=
 for 1 month initally and go from there<br><br>Thanks<br><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Klein <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:helix_siewkong@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">helix_siewkong@yah=
oo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>This is not my p=
ost. Im from singapore and my FPA account is klein880611. And my real full n=
ame is Tang Siew Kong instead of S.K Tan. Please check it out. I swear i nev=
er write any offensive review.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Oppositely please check your history in Skype, i remembe=
r i did write something very supportive and defensive message to your servic=
e. However, i was replied with some scolding words by your group members.</d=
iv>
<div><br></div><div>Please check on your side.</div><div><br></div><div>Than=
ks.<br><br><div>Regards,</div><div>Klein</div><div><br></div>Sent from my iP=
hone</div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On 10 Jan, 2013, at 4:02 PM, 4x Pi=
ps &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:admin@4xpips.net" target=3D"_blank">admin@4xpips.ne=
t</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Hi<br><br>Is this&nbsp; y=
our FPA review?&nbsp; Thanks<br><br><h3 style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size=
:18px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(99,141,69);line-height:35px;text-align:le=
ft;margin:0px 12px 4px;text-decoration:initial;border-bottom-width:1px;borde=
r-bottom-style:dotted;border-bottom-color:rgb(99,141,69);background-image:no=
ne;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0=
px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:=
rgb(246,248,250)">

S.K Tan, , Singapore</h3><div style=3D"font-size:12px;font-family:Tahoma;fon=
t-weight:normal;color:rgb(40,58,94);margin:12px;font-style:normal;font-varia=
nt:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-ind=
ent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-c=
olor:rgb(246,248,250)">

<table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"1" cellspacing=3D"1"><tbody><tr><td style=
=3D"font-size:1em" width=3D"120"><b>Rating:</b></td><td style=3D"font-size:1=
em"><img src=3D"http://static.forexpeacearmy.com/images/red_star_full.png" a=
lt=3D"" style=3D"border:0px;padding-right:2px" height=3D"12" width=3D"12"><i=
mg src=3D"http://static.forexpeacearmy.com/images/red_star_full.png" alt=3D"=
" style=3D"border:0px;padding-right:2px" height=3D"12" width=3D"12"><img src=
=3D"http://static.forexpeacearmy.com/images/red_star_empty.png" alt=3D"" sty=
le=3D"border:0px;padding-right:2px" height=3D"12" width=3D"12"><img src=3D"h=
ttp://static.forexpeacearmy.com/images/red_star_empty.png" alt=3D"" style=3D=
"border:0px;padding-right:2px" height=3D"12" width=3D"12"><img src=3D"http:/=
/static.forexpeacearmy.com/images/red_star_empty.png" alt=3D"" style=3D"bord=
er:0px;padding-right:2px" height=3D"12" width=3D"12">	<br>

</td></tr><tr><td style=3D"font-size:1em"><b>Date of Post:</b></td><td style=
=3D"font-size:1em">2012-10-27<br></td></tr><tr valign=3D"top"><td style=3D"f=
ont-size:1em"><b>Review:</b></td><td style=3D"font-size:1em">
Basically Oct has been a bad month. Haven't been following their trade signa=
l at all since Oct. Well I guess its only my 1 month into the service. I mus=
t admit Oct is a really hard month to trade. Will monitor the signals to giv=
e another review again. Bad or good is too early to say yet. Everyone has th=
eir s****y days too.</td>

</tr></tbody></table></div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 10=
, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Klein <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:helix_siewk=
ong@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">helix_siewkong@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div><div><div><div><=
div>Dear Admin,</div><div><br></div><div>Frankly to say that we are really d=
isappointed with the signal service performance. After we have subscribe the=
 service via FPA promotion, we learnt that this signal service could not</di=
v>

<div>commit as if the advertised performance (few hundreds pips profit) with=
in this 3 months.</div><div><br></div><div>Oppositely it has caused us loss o=
f hundreds pips within these months since we followed this service very clos=
ely. Eventually it triggered much anger and complaints from our portfolio in=
vestors just because we trusted on your service. I think you should be aware=
 of the performance of this signal service and also received a lot of compla=
ints about your service. I also can see numerous negative comment and a lot o=
f people gave up on this service as well through number of participants in s=
kype and FB.</div>

<div><br></div><div>However, we never lodged complaint over over it and neve=
r ever post any negative comment about your service on FPA or other website.=
 We understood that we should bear the loss and any responsibility since we t=
rusted on your service. Furthermore, these 3 months market performed very to=
ugh and understood this treated your service not really fair enough if we cl=
aimed that your performance is poor.</div>

<div><br></div><div>We also understood that it is not a good idea if we requ=
est for refund. To be fair to us, we would like to request for 3-month compl=
imentary service so that at least our investors were compensated and get con=
vinced. I believe if the performance is profitable within these 2 months, we=
 would definately be happy to continue subscribe this service and maintain i=
t. We are also looking for long term relationship with your company.</div>

<div><br></div><div>Appreciate if you could advise us and looking forward to=
 your prompt reply.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you.<br><br><div>Regards,=
</div><div>Klein</div></div><div><br>On 10 Jan, 2013, at 9:40 AM, 4x Pips &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:admin@4xpips.net" target=3D"_blank">admin@4xpips.net</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br>

<br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><p>
	Hi all</p>
<p>
	I have had a number of emails from people asking about why they wer=
e receiving signals last week and others asking why they stopped so suddenly=
 this week so I will try and explain. We ran an FPA promotion from 25th Sept=
 to 30th Sept 2012 and all of the people on 3 months subscriptions had their=
 subscriptions ending Christmas week leading into new year. We use a deliver=
y system called amember which breaks our clients into ALL, CURRENT, EXPIRED,=
 POTENTIAL based on their subscription status so from Christmas week to make=
 things easier we sent signals to ALL so basically anybody who ever received=
 signals from us since Sept (when we implemented the amember system) receive=
d emails again. We continued this until Monday this week. So for people who j=
oined 25th Sept on 3 months pckage they got arppox 2 weeks free and people w=
ho joined 30th got approx 1 weeks free.&nbsp;</p>

<p>
	Unfortunately we had a number of people who emailed complaining tha=
t they were receiving emails again and were worried we would start re-chargi=
ng them for this so we had to take the decision to stop the free signals on M=
onday as we had at minimum given 1 week free as we promised.</p>

<p>
	Also, some people have emailed saying they wanted to continue and w=
e are not sending signals, this is because PAYPAL cancelled all our autopaym=
ents in November so anybody who paid via payal in Sept FPA offer and wish to=
 continue can now go to <a href=3D"http://www.profitfromtrading.co.uk" targe=
t=3D"_blank">www.profitfromtrading.co.uk</a> and pay direct by Paypal. The p=
rices have all been cut by approx 20% and if you choose the $159 3 month pac=
kage the total discount is greater so this will still meet your FPA 20% disc=
ount rate</p>

<p>
	I hope this clarifies things and I am sorry we could not have given=
 the people who only got 1 week free another free week but as you see it is d=
ifficult</p>
<p>
	If anybody has any problems and feel they did not get the free week=
 or weeks they were promised then please let us know immediatley so we can c=
orrect it. &nbsp;</p>
<p>
	Thanks for your help</p>
<p>
	4x pips</p>

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