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And also please send me the latest signal email as well. Regards, Klein Sent from my iPhone On 11 Jan, 2013, at 1:23 PM, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wrote: > Hi >=20 > I will add your email now. Can you tell me what your twitter name was as I= will need ot unblock you and then you reuqest to FOLLOW us again >=20 > Thanks >=20 > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Klein <helix_siewkong@yahoo.com> wrote: > Dear Admin, >=20 > Noted with thanks. However, we are worried this month may not be able to m= eet our breakeven for the loss of these 3 months. Actually we had lost more t= han 500 pips within these 3 months due to your signal and i believe your cli= ents and you should have encountered the same result with us. >=20 > Nevermind, we just look forward on your signal performance first and wish a= ll of us have a impressive profitable month. >=20 > May i know when does this complimentary start? Please advise me soonest. >=20 > Anyway, thanks for your complimentary month. >=20 > Regards, > Klein >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On 11 Jan, 2013, at 3:48 AM, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wrote: >=20 >> Hi >>=20 >> Ok lets re-add you for 1 month initally and go from there >>=20 >> Thanks >>=20 >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Klein <helix_siewkong@yahoo.com> wrote: >> This is not my post. Im from singapore and my FPA account is klein880611.= And my real full name is Tang Siew Kong instead of S.K Tan. Please check it= out. I swear i never write any offensive review. >>=20 >> Oppositely please check your history in Skype, i remember i did write som= ething very supportive and defensive message to your service. However, i was= replied with some scolding words by your group members. >>=20 >> Please check on your side. >>=20 >> Thanks. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Klein >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >> On 10 Jan, 2013, at 4:02 PM, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi >>>=20 >>> Is this your FPA review? Thanks >>>=20 >>> S.K Tan, , Singapore >>> Rating: =09 >>> Date of Post: 2012-10-27 >>> Review: Basically Oct has been a bad month. Haven't been following= their trade signal at all since Oct. Well I guess its only my 1 month into t= he service. I must admit Oct is a really hard month to trade. Will monitor t= he signals to give another review again. Bad or good is too early to say yet= . Everyone has their s****y days too. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Klein <helix_siewkong@yahoo.com> wrote:= >>> Dear Admin, >>>=20 >>> Frankly to say that we are really disappointed with the signal service p= erformance. After we have subscribe the service via FPA promotion, we learnt= that this signal service could not >>> commit as if the advertised performance (few hundreds pips profit) withi= n this 3 months. >>>=20 >>> Oppositely it has caused us loss of hundreds pips within these months si= nce we followed this service very closely. Eventually it triggered much ange= r and complaints from our portfolio investors just because we trusted on you= r service. I think you should be aware of the performance of this signal ser= vice and also received a lot of complaints about your service. I also can se= e numerous negative comment and a lot of people gave up on this service as w= ell through number of participants in skype and FB. >>>=20 >>> However, we never lodged complaint over over it and never ever post any n= egative comment about your service on FPA or other website. We understood th= at we should bear the loss and any responsibility since we trusted on your s= ervice. Furthermore, these 3 months market performed very tough and understo= od this treated your service not really fair enough if we claimed that your p= erformance is poor. >>>=20 >>> We also understood that it is not a good idea if we request for refund. T= o be fair to us, we would like to request for 3-month complimentary service s= o that at least our investors were compensated and get convinced. I believe i= f the performance is profitable within these 2 months, we would definately b= e happy to continue subscribe this service and maintain it. We are also look= ing for long term relationship with your company. >>>=20 >>> Appreciate if you could advise us and looking forward to your prompt rep= ly. >>>=20 >>> Thank you. >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> Klein >>>=20 >>> On 10 Jan, 2013, at 9:40 AM, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hi all >>>>=20 >>>> I have had a number of emails from people asking about why they were re= ceiving signals last week and others asking why they stopped so suddenly thi= s week so I will try and explain. We ran an FPA promotion from 25th Sept to 3= 0th Sept 2012 and all of the people on 3 months subscriptions had their subs= criptions ending Christmas week leading into new year. We use a delivery sys= tem called amember which breaks our clients into ALL, CURRENT, EXPIRED, POTE= NTIAL based on their subscription status so from Christmas week to make thin= gs easier we sent signals to ALL so basically anybody who ever received sign= als from us since Sept (when we implemented the amember system) received ema= ils again. We continued this until Monday this week. So for people who joine= d 25th Sept on 3 months pckage they got arppox 2 weeks free and people who j= oined 30th got approx 1 weeks free.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Unfortunately we had a number of people who emailed complaining that th= ey were receiving emails again and were worried we would start re-charging t= hem for this so we had to take the decision to stop the free signals on Mond= ay as we had at minimum given 1 week free as we promised. >>>>=20 >>>> Also, some people have emailed saying they wanted to continue and we ar= e not sending signals, this is because PAYPAL cancelled all our autopayments= in November so anybody who paid via payal in Sept FPA offer and wish to con= tinue can now go to www.profitfromtrading.co.uk and pay direct by Paypal. Th= e prices have all been cut by approx 20% and if you choose the $159 3 month p= ackage the total discount is greater so this will still meet your FPA 20% di= scount rate >>>>=20 >>>> I hope this clarifies things and I am sorry we could not have given the= people who only got 1 week free another free week but as you see it is diff= icult >>>>=20 >>>> If anybody has any problems and feel they did not get the free week or w= eeks they were promised then please let us know immediatley so we can correc= t it. =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks for your help >>>>=20 >>>> 4x pips >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> To unsubscribe from our periodic e-mail messages, please click the foll= owing link=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-CAA26101-427B-48DD-AE3B-2C4A862DEFEF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>My twitter is Klein Siew Kong (@klein880611)</div><div><br></div><div>Please reply me once you have added me in your email, Facebook and twitter for the signal service.</div><div><br></div><div>And also please send me the latest signal email as well.<br><br><div>Regards,</div><div>Klein</div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 11 Jan, 2013, at 1:23 PM, 4x Pips <<a href="mailto:admin@4xpips.net">admin@4xpips.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi<br><br>I will add your email now. Can you tell me what your twitter name was as I will need ot unblock you and then you reuqest to FOLLOW us again<br><br>Thanks<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Klein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:helix_siewkong@yahoo.com" target="_blank">helix_siewkong@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Dear Admin,</div><div><br></div><div>Noted with thanks. However, we are worried this month may not be able to meet our <span>breakeven for the loss of these 3 months. Actually we had lost more than 500 pips within these 3 months due to your signal and i believe your clients and you should have encountered the same result with us.</span></div> <div><br></div><div>Nevermind, we just look forward on your signal performance first and wish all of us have a impressive profitable month.</div><div><br></div><div>May i know when does this complimentary start? Please advise me soonest.</div> <div><br></div><div>Anyway, thanks for your complimentary month.</div><div class="im"><div><br><div>Regards,</div><div>Klein</div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On 11 Jan, 2013, at 3:48 AM, 4x Pips <<a href="mailto:admin@4xpips.net" target="_blank">admin@4xpips.net</a>> wrote:<br> <br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi<br><br>Ok lets re-add you for 1 month initally and go from there<br><br>Thanks<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Klein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:helix_siewkong@yahoo.com" target="_blank">helix_siewkong@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>This is not my post. Im from singapore and my FPA account is klein880611. And my real full name is Tang Siew Kong instead of S.K Tan. Please check it out. I swear i never write any offensive review.</div> <div><br></div><div>Oppositely please check your history in Skype, i remember i did write something very supportive and defensive message to your service. However, i was replied with some scolding words by your group members.</div> <div><br></div><div>Please check on your side.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.<br><br><div>Regards,</div><div>Klein</div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div><div><br>On 10 Jan, 2013, at 4:02 PM, 4x Pips <<a href="mailto:admin@4xpips.net" target="_blank">admin@4xpips.net</a>> wrote:<br> <br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi<br><br>Is this your FPA review? Thanks<br><br><h3 style="font-family:Arial;font-size:18px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(99,141,69);line-height:35px;text-align:left;margin:0px 12px 4px;text-decoration:initial;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted;border-bottom-color:rgb(99,141,69);background-image:none;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(246,248,250)"> S.K Tan, , Singapore</h3><div style="font-size:12px;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(40,58,94);margin:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(246,248,250)"> <table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td style="font-size:1em" width="120"><b>Rating:</b></td><td style="font-size:1em"><img src="http://static.forexpeacearmy.com/images/red_star_full.png" alt="" style="border:0px;padding-right:2px" height="12" width="12"><img src="http://static.forexpeacearmy.com/images/red_star_full.png" alt="" style="border:0px;padding-right:2px" height="12" width="12"><img src="http://static.forexpeacearmy.com/images/red_star_empty.png" alt="" style="border:0px;padding-right:2px" height="12" width="12"><img src="http://static.forexpeacearmy.com/images/red_star_empty.png" alt="" style="border:0px;padding-right:2px" height="12" width="12"><img src="http://static.forexpeacearmy.com/images/red_star_empty.png" alt="" style="border:0px;padding-right:2px" height="12" width="12"> <br> </td></tr><tr><td style="font-size:1em"><b>Date of Post:</b></td><td style="font-size:1em">2012-10-27<br></td></tr><tr valign="top"><td style="font-size:1em"><b>Review:</b></td><td style="font-size:1em"> Basically Oct has been a bad month. Haven't been following their trade signal at all since Oct. Well I guess its only my 1 month into the service. I must admit Oct is a really hard month to trade. Will monitor the signals to give another review again. Bad or good is too early to say yet. Everyone has their s****y days too.</td> </tr></tbody></table></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Klein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:helix_siewkong@yahoo.com" target="_blank">helix_siewkong@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div><div><div><div>Dear Admin,</div><div><br></div><div>Frankly to say that we are really disappointed with the signal service performance. After we have subscribe the service via FPA promotion, we learnt that this signal service could not</div> <div>commit as if the advertised performance (few hundreds pips profit) within this 3 months.</div><div><br></div><div>Oppositely it has caused us loss of hundreds pips within these months since we followed this service very closely. Eventually it triggered much anger and complaints from our portfolio investors just because we trusted on your service. I think you should be aware of the performance of this signal service and also received a lot of complaints about your service. I also can see numerous negative comment and a lot of people gave up on this service as well through number of participants in skype and FB.</div> <div><br></div><div>However, we never lodged complaint over over it and never ever post any negative comment about your service on FPA or other website. We understood that we should bear the loss and any responsibility since we trusted on your service. Furthermore, these 3 months market performed very tough and understood this treated your service not really fair enough if we claimed that your performance is poor.</div> <div><br></div><div>We also understood that it is not a good idea if we request for refund. To be fair to us, we would like to request for 3-month complimentary service so that at least our investors were compensated and get convinced. I believe if the performance is profitable within these 2 months, we would definately be happy to continue subscribe this service and maintain it. We are also looking for long term relationship with your company.</div> <div><br></div><div>Appreciate if you could advise us and looking forward to your prompt reply.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you.<br><br><div>Regards,</div><div>Klein</div></div><div><br>On 10 Jan, 2013, at 9:40 AM, 4x Pips <<a href="mailto:admin@4xpips.net" target="_blank">admin@4xpips.net</a>> wrote:<br> <br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p> Hi all</p> <p> I have had a number of emails from people asking about why they were receiving signals last week and others asking why they stopped so suddenly this week so I will try and explain. We ran an FPA promotion from 25th Sept to 30th Sept 2012 and all of the people on 3 months subscriptions had their subscriptions ending Christmas week leading into new year. We use a delivery system called amember which breaks our clients into ALL, CURRENT, EXPIRED, POTENTIAL based on their subscription status so from Christmas week to make things easier we sent signals to ALL so basically anybody who ever received signals from us since Sept (when we implemented the amember system) received emails again. We continued this until Monday this week. So for people who joined 25th Sept on 3 months pckage they got arppox 2 weeks free and people who joined 30th got approx 1 weeks free. </p> <p> Unfortunately we had a number of people who emailed complaining that they were receiving emails again and were worried we would start re-charging them for this so we had to take the decision to stop the free signals on Monday as we had at minimum given 1 week free as we promised.</p> <p> Also, some people have emailed saying they wanted to continue and we are not sending signals, this is because PAYPAL cancelled all our autopayments in November so anybody who paid via payal in Sept FPA offer and wish to continue can now go to <a href="http://www.profitfromtrading.co.uk" target="_blank">www.profitfromtrading.co.uk</a> and pay direct by Paypal. The prices have all been cut by approx 20% and if you choose the $159 3 month package the total discount is greater so this will still meet your FPA 20% discount rate</p> <p> I hope this clarifies things and I am sorry we could not have given the people who only got 1 week free another free week but as you see it is difficult</p> <p> If anybody has any problems and feel they did not get the free week or weeks they were promised then please let us know immediatley so we can correct it. </p> <p> Thanks for your help</p> <p> 4x pips</p> <br> <font color="gray">To unsubscribe from our periodic e-mail messages, please click the following <a href="http://www.4xpips.net/secure/unsubscribe?e=helix_siewkong%40yahoo.com&s=ND1DLiDoTg" target="_blank">link</a></font> <br> </div></blockquote></div><div><span></span></div></div><div></div></div><div></div></div><div></div></div></blockquote></div><br> </div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br> </div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br> </div></blockquote></body></html> --Apple-Mail-CAA26101-427B-48DD-AE3B-2C4A862DEFEF--
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