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Return-path: <admin@cash-master.com> Envelope-to: admin@4xpips.net Delivery-date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:42:37 -0500 Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:40604) by host.silverbacklabs.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <admin@cash-master.com>) id 1Tzn6j-00041Z-1m for admin@4xpips.net; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:42:37 -0500 Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id fg15so1612762wgb.25 for <admin@4xpips.net>; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:42:34 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language :x-antivirus:x-antivirus-status:x-gm-message-state; bh=u3cuhxq3gXOiQ994PwQ/Cmq33WxC3Bk9y1wm+qtI2j8=; b=JlcqqW3SVQQ0WSV87uLljU49ZXZZroYn3FnNd+btYyIUpCP6RPIfAvrG7EyHEohSG/ pSpnogDf1e/OrPyJ1x9syV4Tw37eVphoOTVSPK5cGxi6K0Gz5a0RipoIyaXq6hLpG3jQ hXp7FOhZjupCHudLzvRq7fgjdECKNGjdW3CjVx4mnIsfe8w+j4m5YPtBcR+syXu0Tkc/ gCQQf2dveMeFL0CL4wuSJhLqWNGxRI/FKilbhAFSlKwdlPloH1/2Fvfkm5xIK6uKaQkR 9FVmGgJBi7x1vSIC620L1L6EOxdFpkdZRdgA+PGaC8TH+/DuuUEc6sunDqYcz7GC96zG vWfQ== X-Received: by 10.180.82.170 with SMTP id j10mr9194360wiy.2.1359373354040; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:42:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from GrahamPC (5ac5adca.bb.sky.com. [90.197.173.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cu7sm11700323wib.8.2013.01.28.03.42.30 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:42:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Cash Master" <admin@cash-master.com> To: "'4x Pips'" <admin@4xpips.net> References: <6ca841cc9237689a092c20df349a47e1@www.4xpips.net> <CAC_eSyevF=FW=B619MLNUgdG=xEw-MTcr94q6TfBGBVjBT=yJA@mail.gmail.com> <CACwzRqSipiWExVC0FxE2B3mrSL0oYWWLzY6q17=o7Cmt1n_PUQ@mail.gmail.com> <000f01cdfaf7$87292860$957b7920$@com> <CAC_eSyfxVrhQddKfDZYKj6fFTQVwyLnhQU4EkfH9AZEgd9dz3A@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAC_eSyfxVrhQddKfDZYKj6fFTQVwyLnhQU4EkfH9AZEgd9dz3A@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Contact Form Submission from Graham Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:42:25 -0000 Message-ID: <009d01cdfd4c$8c5a91a0$a50fb4e0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009E_01CDFD4C.8C5A91A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac38rGFDrUjhdF/pQs+r87k/nX7xuwAn7dpQ Content-Language: en-gb X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130128-0, 28/01/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkoGEppQE58PwGAFjqDNysKOdG6OMgbGID9bs7ZAAjKQwCLDQwoKI77/n5AAW0Dr+B9Z40C This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01CDFD4C.8C5A91A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've tested my link and it still goes to the main site. http://cashmast.4expips.hop.clickbank.net If you want me as an affiliate (or any other serious affiliates) you can only have permanent affiliate payment options, you can't offer it on a 14 day basis. This is because most affiliates, myself included, bring in evergreen sales (all year round, not just one off promotions). You clearly are not experienced working with affiliates so I'll give it a miss. Cheers Graham From: silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 4x Pips Sent: 27 January 2013 16:36 To: Cash Master Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from Graham Hi Graham, You are right that is an issue... sorry. I have created a new sign-up page that only has clickbank that you can send to your list (http://www.4xpips.net/secure/signup/index/c/T7Lwh8hwy). Alternatively I can remove all other payment options for 7 to 14 days from when you send out an email to your list - so their only option is CB. We have some clients (from africa) who are not allowed access to PayPal or ClickBank so for them we have set up other options - MoneyBookers, Liberty Reserve and Western Union... but again I can remove this info for you for a set period of time. I am considering completely removing PP from the site altogether as we have had trouble with them before and to be honest would like to keep auto payments away from them. If we can gain a few good affiliates then that is an easy choice to make. I think removing the other payment options will be fairest for you. Let me know what you want to do and I will do the necessary. Best wishes, Kilion On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Cash Master <admin@cash-master.com> wrote: Hi Kilion, Unfortunately you have set up your site so that affiliates can be bypassed. Customers can choose to pay by Paypal (or Moneybookers, Liberty Reserve et al.) which means I wouldn't get paid if anyone chose that option. Or rather I ONLY get paid if they choose Clickbank. This is NOT how you set up a site for affiliates. Thanks Graham From: silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] On Behalf Of admin Sent: 23 January 2013 07:32 To: admin@cash-master.com Subject: Re: Contact Form Submission from Graham Hi Graham, Are you still interested in working with us as an affiliate? Our affiliate program is now live and we are offering a generous residual commission to our partners. More information and instructions on our website at - http://www.4xpips.net/affiliates/ We now have myfxbooks 3rd party verification as well. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help you.. i.e. provide any other info. Best wishes, Kilion 4x Pips ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Graham <admin@cash-master.com> Date: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:37 PM Subject: Contact Form Submission from Graham To: support@4xpips.net Name: Graham Email: admin@cash-master.com Comments: Please contact me when you are ready for affiliates. I have a very responsive list. Thanks Graham ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01CDFD4C.8C5A91A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta = http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"><meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 12 = (filtered medium)"><style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate {mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"Balloon Text Char"; margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:8.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} span.BalloonTextChar {mso-style-name:"Balloon Text Char"; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-link:"Balloon Text"; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only;} @page WordSection1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-GB link=3Dblue = vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>I’ve tested my link and it still goes to the main = site.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><a = href=3D"http://cashmast.4expips.hop.clickbank.net">http://cashmast.4expip= s.hop.clickbank.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>If you want me as an affiliate (or any other serious affiliates) you = can only have permanent affiliate payment options, you can’t offer = it on a 14 day basis. This is because most affiliates, myself included, = bring in evergreen sales (all year round, not just one off = promotions).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>You clearly are not experienced working with affiliates so I’ll = give it a miss.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Graham<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div = style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>= </b><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> = silverbacklabs@gmail.com [mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf = Of </b>4x Pips<br><b>Sent:</b> 27 January 2013 16:36<br><b>To:</b> Cash = Master<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Contact Form Submission from = Graham<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi = Graham,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>You are right that is an issue... sorry. I have = created a new sign-up page that only has clickbank that you can send to = your list (<a = href=3D"http://www.4xpips.net/secure/signup/index/c/T7Lwh8hwy">http://www= .4xpips.net/secure/signup/index/c/T7Lwh8hwy</a>). Alternatively I can = remove all other payment options for 7 to 14 days from when you send out = an email to your list - so their only option is CB. We have some clients = (from africa) who are not allowed access to PayPal or ClickBank so for = them we have set up other options - MoneyBookers, Liberty Reserve and = Western Union... but again I can remove this info for you for a set = period of time.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I = am considering completely removing PP from the site altogether as we = have had trouble with them before and to be honest would like to keep = auto payments away from them. If we can gain a few good affiliates then = that is an easy choice to make.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I = think removing the other payment options will be fairest for you. Let me = know what you want to do and I will do = the necessary.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Best wishes,<br>Kilion<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Cash Master <<a = href=3D"mailto:admin@cash-master.com" = target=3D"_blank">admin@cash-master.com</a>> = wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Hi Kilion,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Unfortunately you have set up your site so that affiliates can be = bypassed.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Customers can choose to pay by Paypal (or Moneybookers, Liberty = Reserve et al.) which means I wouldn’t get paid if anyone chose = that option. Or rather I ONLY get paid if they choose = Clickbank.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>This is NOT how you set up a site for = affiliates.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'>Graham</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497= D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div = style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span = lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>= </b><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a = href=3D"mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com" = target=3D"_blank">silverbacklabs@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a = href=3D"mailto:silverbacklabs@gmail.com" = target=3D"_blank">silverbacklabs@gmail.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of = </b>admin<br><b>Sent:</b> 23 January 2013 07:32<br><b>To:</b> <a = href=3D"mailto:admin@cash-master.com" = target=3D"_blank">admin@cash-master.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: = Contact Form Submission from Graham</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi = Graham,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Are you = still interested in working with us as an = affiliate?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Our = affiliate program is now live and we are offering a generous = residual commission to our partners. More information and = instructions on our website at - <a = href=3D"http://www.4xpips.net/affiliates/" = target=3D"_blank">http://www.4xpips.net/affiliates/</a> <o:p></o:p><= /p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>We now have = myfxbooks 3rd party verification as well. Let me know if there is = anything I can do to help you.. i.e. provide any other = info. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Best = wishes,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Kilion<o:p><= /o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>4x = Pips<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC = 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm = 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5= .0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>---------- = Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b>Graham</b> <<a = href=3D"mailto:admin@cash-master.com" = target=3D"_blank">admin@cash-master.com</a>><br>Date: Tue, Oct 2, = 2012 at 5:37 PM<br>Subject: Contact Form Submission from Graham<br>To: = <a href=3D"mailto:support@4xpips.net" = target=3D"_blank">support@4xpips.net</a><br><br><br>Name: = Graham<br><br>Email: <a href=3D"mailto:admin@cash-master.com" = target=3D"_blank">admin@cash-master.com</a><br><br>Comments: Please = contact me when you are ready for affiliates. I have a very responsive = list.<br><br>Thanks<br><span = style=3D'color:#888888'><br>Graham</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html> ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01CDFD4C.8C5A91A0--
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