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To: "4x Pips" <admin@4xpips.net>
From: "Richard Hartley" <rjhartley@mailxchange.org.uk>
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Hi
Thankyou for your rapid reply!
Presumably, when you talk of "results" =
in the first line of your latest email, you mean the results shown on your =
website and not the results shown on the Trade Copier page?

So on that b=
asis, if I am running your Trade Copier, with no interference from me at al=
l, I should get the same results as those shown on your website? Because th=
ose are based on signals and updates sent by you.

It may be a couple of =
weeks before I can get round to it but I'll sign up for your service shortl=
y.

I appreciate the time you have taken to advise me.

Regards
Richar=
d Hartley

+++++

On 27 November 2013, 4x Pips <admin@4xpips.net> wro=
te:

> Hi
>=20
> Sorry for not replying earlier, the results are based on=
 what the
> signal service makes in pips and % gain/loss per month based o=
n signal
> sent and updates sent
>=20
> The myfxbook and collective2 are r=
un by 2 traders and are based on our
> sigals but can differ from our sign=
als.
>=20
> From Jan 2014 what we will do is close both the coll2 and demo
=
> myfxbook and run a live account which will fully 100% automate our
> sig=
nals so will match our signals and will be run directly by the
> person se=
nding the signals and updates so there won't be 3 differing
> sets of resu=
lts which there is now. Currently this could not be done
> but things will=
 be in place in jan to make sure this will be possible
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
>=
=20
>=20
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Richard Hartley
> <<rjhartley@ma=
ilxchange.org.uk>> wrote:
>=20
> > Hi
> > May I please have a reply to my =
email of Sunday afternoon, a copy of which
> > is attached below.
> > Tha=
nkyou.
> > Richard Hartley
> >=20
> > +++++
> >=20
> >=20
> > ---------- Fo=
rwarded message ----------
> > From: Richard Hartley <<rjhartley@mailxchan=
ge.org.uk>>
> > Date: Sun Nov 24 2013 13:45:30 GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time=
)
> > Subject: Sunday afternoon
> > To: 4x Pips <<admin@4xpips.net>>
> >=
=20
> > Hi
> > Thanks for your below email.
> > I have just a couple of qu=
estions:
> >=20
> > On the results page of your website [
> > <http://www.=
profitfromtrading.co.uk/RESULTS.html> ] your results look very
> > impress=
ive and it is these results that have attracted me to your service.
> > =20
> > On the page giving details of your various services [
> > <http://www.=
profitfromtrading.co.uk/OUR-SERVICE.html> ] with regard to your
> > Trade =
Copier facility you say:
> > "Signals are copied from our PLATINUM service=
 direct to your MT4
> > account........."
> > so I would expect the resul=
ts of the Trade Copier to be roughly what you
> > show on your "Results" p=
age.
> >=20
> > However, following the link to the details about your Trade=
 Copier [
> > <http://www.collective2.com/cgi-perl/system81799642#> ] I se=
e that the results
> > obtained are not anything like as good (indeed, 3 o=
ut of the last 5 months
> > would appear to show a negative result). How c=
an this be?
> >=20
> > Additionally, I note the various disclaimers about H=
ypothetical Results.
> > Why is this page displaying Hypothetical Results =
when I would have thought
> > you had some very good results that you can =
be proud of and which you could
> > display?
> >=20
> > I certainly do not=
 want to use a service based on good Hypothetical Results
> > but I am inc=
lined to use your service based on the results on your "Results"
> > page.=

> >=20
> > I would welcome your advice.
> >=20
> > Many thanks.
> > Richa=
rd Hartley
> >=20
> > +++++
> >=20
> > On Thu Nov 21 2013 18:49:07 GMT+0000=
 (GMT Standard Time), 4x Pips
> > <<admin@4xpips.net>> wrote:
> >=20
> > H=
i Richard,
> >=20
> > Thanks for the mail, seem to have missed the previous=
 one as can't see
> > it so sorry about that
> >=20
> > We are unable to b=
reak down our results unfortunately. As the GOLD
> > service is 1 email a =
day with no updates the results between traders
> > can vary slightly as w=
e do suggest move sl to entry about 30-40pips
> > into trade for them sign=
als.
> >=20
> > We tend to just report the platinum on the website as the h=
igh
> > majortiy of clients sue this service and if we place too many resu=
lts
> > on the site people get confused
> >=20
> > Thanks
> >=20
> > On Th=
u, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Richard Hartley
> > <<rjhartley@mailxchange.o=
rg.uk>> wrote:
> >=20
> > Hi
> > Thanks for your email.
> > I wouldn't ha=
ve been interested in an ipad - but I would be interested in an
> > answer=
 to the question I sent you (via your website) a few days ago:
> >=20
> > a=
re you able to break your results for this year down in to Platinum and
> =
> Gold?
> >=20
> > Regards
> > Richard Hartley
> >=20
> > +++++
> >=20
> >=
 On Thu Nov 21 2013 09:45:38 GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time), 4x Pips
> > <<a=
dmin@4xpips.net>> wrote:
> >=20
> > HI all
> >=20
> > SunbirdFX have approa=
ched us as an affiliate and have made this offer to any
> > new clients
>=
 >=20
> > Unfortunately the offer ends today but I will provide the details =
anyway
> >=20
> > Here is the link <http://www.sunbirdfx.com/?AffId=3D41631=
&affSer=3D>
> > And please use referral code 1069
> >=20
> > The offer the=
y have is: Ipad promo:
> > new account only
> > deposit 1000$
> > until =
the 21st of November
> > by the 31/12/2013 if your account is over 2014$ i=
n closed balance, you win
> > the ipad
> >=20
> > So deposit $1000 today a=
nd if its above $2014 you get a free ipad
> >=20
> > Thanks all
> >=20
> > =

> > To unsubscribe from our periodic e-mail messages, please click the fo=
llowing
> > link
> >

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Hi Thankyou for your rapid reply! Presumably, when you talk of "results" in the first line of your latest ema=
il, you mean the results shown on your website and not the results shown on the Trade Copier page? So on that basis, if I am running your Trade Copier, with no interference f=
rom me at all, I should get the same results as those shown on your website=
?=C2=A0 Because those are based on signals and updates sent by you. It may be a couple of weeks before I can get round to it but I'll sign up f=
or your service shortly. I appreciate the time you have taken to advise me. Regards Richard Hartley +++++ On 27 November 2013, 4x Pips &lt;admin@4xpips.net&gt; wrote:<blockquote type=3D"cite">Hi Sorry for not replying earlier, the results are based on what the signal service makes in pips and % gain/loss per month based on signal sent and updates sent The myfxbook and collective2 are run by 2 traders and are based on our sigals but can differ from our signals. From Jan 2014 what we will do is close both the coll2 and demo myfxbook and run a live account which will fully 100% automate our signals so will match our signals and will be run directly by the person sending the signals and updates so there won't be 3 differing sets of results which there is now. Currently this could not be done but things will be in place in jan to make sure this will be p
 ossible Thanks On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Richard Hartley &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rjhartley@mailxchange.org.uk">rjhartley@mailxchange.org.uk</a>&gt; wrote: <blockquote>Hi May I please have a reply to my email of Sunday afternoon, a copy of which is attached below. Thankyou. Richard Hartley +++++ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Richard Hartley &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rjhartley@mailxchange.org.uk">rjhartley@mailxchange.org.uk</a>&gt; Date: Sun Nov 24 2013 13:45:30 GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sunday afternoon To: 4x Pips &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:admin@4xpips.net">admin@4xpips.net</a>&gt; Hi Thanks for your below email. I have just a couple of questions: On the results page of your website [ <a href=3D"http://www.profitfromtrading.co.uk/RESULTS.html" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://www.profitfromtrading.co.uk/RESULTS.html</a> ] your results look very impressive and it is these results that have attracted me to your service. On the page giving details of your various services [ <a href=3D"http://www.profitfromtrading.co.uk/OUR-SERVICE.html" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.profitfromtrading.co.uk/OUR-SERVICE.html</a> ] with regard to your Trade Copier facility you say: "Signals are copied from our PLATINUM service direct to your MT4 account........." so I would expect the results of the Trade Copier to be roughly what you show on your "Results" page. However, following the link to the details about your Trade Copier [ <a href=3D"http://www.collective2.com/cgi-perl/system81799642#" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.collective2.com/cgi-perl/system81799642#</a> ] I see that the results obtained are not anything like as good (indeed, 3 out of the last 5 months would appear to show a negative result). How can this be? Additionally, I note the various disclaimers about Hypothetical Results. Why is this page displaying Hypothetical Results when I would have thought you had some very good results that you can be proud of and which you could=
 display? I certainly do not want to use a service based on good Hypothetical Results=
 but I am inclined to use your service based on the results on your "Results=
" page. I would welcome your advice. Many thanks. Richard Hartley +++++ On Thu Nov 21 2013 18:49:07 GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time), 4x Pips &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:admin@4xpips.net">admin@4xpips.net</a>&gt; wrote: Hi Richard, Thanks for the mail, seem to have missed the previous one as can't see it so sorry about that We are unable to break down our results unfortunately. As the GOLD service is 1 email a day with no updates the results between traders can vary slightly as we do suggest move sl to entry about 30-40pips into trade for them signals. We tend to just report the platinum on the website as the high majortiy of clients sue this service and if we place too many results on the site people get confused Thanks On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Richard Hartley &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rjhartley@mailxchange.org.uk">rjhartl
 ey@mailxchange.org.uk</a>&gt; wrote: Hi Thanks for your email. I wouldn't have been interested in an ipad - but I would be interested in an answer to the question I sent you (via your website) a few days ago: are you able to break your results for this year down in to Platinum and Gold? Regards Richard Hartley +++++ On Thu Nov 21 2013 09:45:38 GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time), 4x Pips &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:admin@4xpips.net">admin@4xpips.net</a>&gt; wrote: HI all SunbirdFX have approached us as an affiliate and have made this offer to an=
y new clients Unfortunately the offer ends today but I will provide the details anyway Here is the link <a href=3D"http://www.sunbirdfx.com/?AffId=3D41631&affSer=3D" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.sunbirdfx.com/?AffId=3D41631&affSer=3D</a> And please use referral code 1069 The offer they have is: Ipad promo: new account only deposit 1000$ until the 21st of November by the 31/12/2013 if your account is over 2014$ in closed balance, you win the ipad So deposit $1000 today and if its above $2014 you get a free ipad Thanks all To unsubscribe from our periodic e-mail messages, please click the following link </blockquote></blockquote>

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